The Evangelical Universalist Forum

An amazing statement by Kay Arthur on Christian radio today.

When I first heard the theology of Calvinism, I was truly shocked that anyone could believe such teachings about our God who defines Himself as love itself. I am still shocked to this day that anyone believes this could be reality.

Why, oh why, would Jesus ask the Father to forgive those who tortured and killed Him. To ask this would be totally meaningless if those men were destined to destruction from the foundation of the world.

Why, oh why, would Jesus bother to tell the parable of the prodigal son if the father was pleased to send his prodigal son to eternal conscious torment. Clearly, such teachings are a montrous insult to our Father Who is pure and perfect love and tells us who believe now to love our enemies and pray for those who persecute us. Does He do less than He asks of us? No, He does more than we can ask or imagine - for He IS love and love NEVER fails.

Sorry, I don’t get what’s so ‘amazing’ about Kay’s very personal admissions. I’m not a Calvinist. I don’t understand their views on ‘Eternal Security’ and ‘Predestined’. They take it too far, in my opinion. The Church has gotten away from what Paul preached, and the apostles believed, after being with Christ for 3 years. Truly, wolves did come in, as Jesus warned, and they took the ‘Church’ into doctrines of devils in diverse ways, and while the ‘Church’ has kept trying to ‘right’ itself, with reforms and reformations and different movements under the leading of the Holy Spirit over the centuries to purify the Church, still, the Church keeps being wooed away from its moors by false teachings and false teachers that constantly come in (the devil’s seductions) to harm the Church. Some of these have lasted a long time.

The Bible says at II Peter 3:9-18, that ‘the Lord…is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come like a thief…what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, on account of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning… Therefore, beloved, since you look for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless, and regard the patience of our Lord to be salvation…just as…Paul…wrote to you…in which are some things hard to understand, which the untauaght and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.
…be on your guard lest, being carried away by the error of unprincipled men, you fall from your own steadfastness; but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ…’

The fact that ‘…the Lord is ‘not wishing/desiring’ for any to perish but for all to come to repentance…’ is a reference to the fact that we are made in the image of God with a ‘will’ of our own. God is all-powerful, all-knowing, but man has a will that God does not counteract. God desires all men to receive Jesus, and He has ‘willed’ that all men love and serve Him, but He doesn’t ‘make all men’ do what He has the power to make us do! He restrains Himself, in order that man can exercise his own will in response to God’s love extended to ‘all men’ freely in Christ Jesus.