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Contradictions: OT V OT

Interesting…

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[quote=“DaveB2.0, post:299, topic:14663, full:true”]
I think the point remains, though - IF time includes the future, then God is committed to it.

We don’t know that

Now we can go all Calvinist and claim that God pre-ordained each thing that happens, from beginning to end, before it happens. Every atom in the Universe, for 13 billion years or so. In that way, we do lose free will - whatever that is - but we do save Omniscience - whatever that is.
But if God has to ‘look’ to see ‘what happens’ - then time is in control.

Or God has set forth a structure that allows humans to live, breath and interact within that creation with an understanding that the DNA of the first humans will evolve to the DNA to help humanity care for itself. If I was a creator and loved my creation I would do this.

If the future is yet to happen, God is still in control, and free will is saved.

Well He could be in control in context. Free will is subject to the creators whim. And I have a feeling we are just scratching the surface of God’s whims. But that is just my view.

Good luck with your thinking
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Hmm

I’ll second that emotion!

We need a song, to emphasize this idea! :crazy_face:

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Great Great way you all will satisfy your love of music…

I guess that’s a really big deal for those who want to say the Bible rises or falls on complete verbal and plenary inspiration?
For those of us who don’t think the truth of the Bible rests on that tenuous and narrow foundation, it’s like no big deal.

In other words, we need to see the “Forest” and not get lost in the trees.

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This interesting video might be relevant here.