How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper


#1210

I find that Mr. Trump and his supporters label as “false news” any news that places Mr. Trump in a negative light. They seem to be behaving rather similar to a cult, whose members think their leader can do no wrong and defend his every action.

I’m a Trump supporter so I want to thank you for pointing out I belong to a cult. Also my wife supports Trump more then I do and she certainly will be thankful for being alerted she is also a cult member.
Frankly Porter will be forgotten within a week and perhaps the Trump WH made a mistake and hopefully learns something from it. Just for the record I support Trump despite his personality but because he is a ardent Capitalist which I think is by far the best economic system there is.


#1211

Don, you are simply wrong in most of what you said in that post, but perhaps you are the one in a cult? The ‘never-Trumpers’ or something? :astonished: :astonished:

You are way out of touch with how bad the situation is here - but you are not alone. I talk with friends in Holland who tell me the most outrageous things their newspapers tell them - and are shocked when I can prove they are outright LIES - not fake news, actual lying by the media. Same with people I know in Australia.

I can’t convince you - you have to be here where it is a struggle to get anything approaching fair and balanced. The media are now advocacy journalists - most of the ‘reporting’ they do is no more than opinion.

Don, it’s bad, very bad.


#1212

I’m pretty sure I already posted this once. It’s a graphic produced by a Harvard group that did a study on the news coverage President Trump has received from the media hereabouts and across the pond. If there’s been any change, it hasn’t been in Donald Trump’s favor.

Please note that Fox News does not give the president anything like unremittingly positive coverage. I’ve learned from personal experience that what we hear from the news media is at best exaggerated and at worst utterly false (for lack of a better word, propaganda.) And I’m only talking about relatively neutral things–from the weather to the political conditions in another country. News people know we can’t just drop everything and fly off to Guatemala or even South Carolina to see whether or not they’re being straight with us. On the few occasions I’ve had the opportunity to verify, I’ve found the media to be so far over the top that I can only describe it as lying. And THAT is just for ratings. Imagine if they have a political horse to power across the finish line. These are not honest people. They’re actors with a role to play and an agenda to enact. This is supposed to be a republic. They are supposed to tell us the truth, but they do not. We aren’t obligated to believe them, just because other people choose to do so.


(Edited to add:) By the way, I have contested and continue to contest that certain democratic politicians–men whose politics I absolutely detest and whom I consider to be hypocrites and posers using their constituency merely to continue accruing political power and wealth–should NOT have been drummed out of office on the mere accusation of impropriety. I’ve even written to them and encouraged them to stay and insist on due process. Not because I think they were innocent; I don’t know. If they haven’t confessed, I want them to get due process. If they’re found innocent and their constituency still believes in their guilt, then THEY and they alone should “fire” them at the next election. Due process is THAT important to our nation. People’s lives shouldn’t be ruined over the mere rumor–unproven–of wrong-doing.


#1213

In response to Paidion’s statements - I add this. I am a big fan, of the BBC News. And I read it online and watch it, for a half hour - each day - on TV. The UK and the US - are good friends. So they really don’t have any political bias (more or less), in reporting US news.

I"m an independent. Now that Trump is in, let him take the ball - and run with it. As long as he doesn’t do anything, that compromises older Americans…And the AARP has no issues…I let him do his thing.

Folks can always vote in, a bunch of Democrats - during the midterms.

Someone mentioned the Trump cult here. I am a big, virtual fan…of the tribulation and the Zombie Apocalypse - cult message. AND I AM PROUD OF IT :exclamation: :smiley:

However. I am open minded, regarding some sort of AI Apocalypse - occurring simultaneously. :slight_smile:


#1214

However. I am open minded, regarding some sort of AI Apocalypse - occurring simultaneously. :slight_smile:

I suspect Trump is a Zombie and everyone he brought into the WH are Zombies. Perhaps Muellar should investigate this!!


#1215

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: At least maybe that would give him something else to chew on, seeing the Russia thing seems to be landing on HIM and his buddies instead of on its intended target.

I don’t remember who said that. Mussolini or Lenin or Stalin or someone like that, but they all run together. Russia is clearly exploding in the “wrong” court, so now they’re going to have to attempt “obstruction of justice.” It might work as a legal fiction–even to throw people in jail–for obstructing a “justice” that was intent on prosecuting the wrong person for something that wouldn’t have been a crime had they done it but WAS a crime in the way that they themselves actually did do it. :unamused: If you wrote a spy novel like this, no one would read it because it would just be too, too ridiculous to allow anyone to “suspend reality” in order to enjoy the read.

Zombies (let alone AI) would be so much easier to believe than what is in fact happening in DC. :confused:


#1216

Here is a photo known to be that of Colbie Holderness, one of Rob Porter’s former wives.

But I suppose Mr. Trump’s supporters will definitely state that she received the black eye in some way other than being struck by Porter.

Finally, when Mr. Trump was called upon to comment on the allegations of Porter’s former wives, he said, “I’m surprised—greatly surprised, but I wish him well.” He then went on to tell what a good job Porter had done. Then he said, “He has denied the allegations. Remember that.” So if Mr.Trump believes the abuse never took place, then it is almost certain that his supporters will believe the same.


#1217

So if Mr.Trump believes the abuse never took place, then it is almost certain that his supporters will believe the same.

I’m a supporter and i believe Porter’s wives and that the WH messed up. Next case!


#1218

Always accuse the OTHER of the thing of which you are yourself guilty."
I don’t remember who said that. Mussolini or Lenin or Stalin or someone like that, but they all run together

The shrinks call it projecting or just being a Democrat :laughing: Hitler said if you keep telling a lie enough times it becomes believed. Sadly he was right.


#1219

IF he did it, Don, he has to face the consequences. YOU don’t know if he did it.
Your cult of never-Trumpers are too quick to believe anything anti-Trump.


#1220

I did find a book on Amazon. It got 5-star ratings and reviews, from readers. I hope to get a copy, via the public library. It might help, with the issues here. :slight_smile:

Only Dead on the Inside: A Parent’s Guide to Surviving the Zombie Apocalypse


#1221

How would that help?


#1222

Everyone would be focused on, preparing for the Zombie Apocalypse. And nobody would have time, for domestic abuse and other things. :wink:


#1223


#1224

NO FACTS of any kind that puts Trump in a bad light, makes the slightest difference to the Cult of Trumpery. Like Mr. Trump himself, his fanatic supporters immediately dismiss those facts as “false news.”

Well… I’m finished arguing about this. What I or anyone else says that questions Trumps ways and words, makes no difference whatever to most Trump supporters.

However, I WILL affirm that I don’t oppose Trump as a person. Rather, I oppose some of his policies, and most of his ludicrous words and “solutions.” I was concerned that his words about wiping out North Korea (and which North Korea took as a threat) might result in nuclear war. But it appears (at least for the time being) that North Korea isn’t going to take the first step in such a war. I’m sure the world rejoices in that!

Best wishes to you and to all Trump supporters! I sincerely wish that Mr. Trump were, in fact, all that you believe him to be.


#1225

You know Don, that is a pretty nice post and I tend to agree with some of it. But if we look at DJT as a new entity, not like other presidents before him, we may see a ruffling of the ranks, and much of his vocabulary and demeanor are toward that end. This is the very thing many people here in the US are looking for. They like it :laughing:


#1226

Folks might think I’m strange. When I talk about the tribulation and the Zombie Apocalypse. But look at this news item, from the BBC today. :open_mouth:

Stormy Daniels: Trump lawyer admits paying porn star

Now, which is worse? The Trump cult or the Zombie Apocalypse cult :question: :confused:

At least the latter is performing a great service - for humanity. :smiley:

And all you AI Apocalypse promoters…might be interested, in this BBC story: :smiley:

Crypto-currency craze 'hinders search for alien life


#1227

NO FACTS of any kind that puts Trump in a bad light, makes the slightest difference to the Cult of Trumpery. Like Mr. Trump himself, his fanatic supporters immediately dismiss those facts as “false news.”

I get the feeling you think all Trump supporters have red necks and are missing many teeth and are married to their cousins? I know quite a few and it’s not about Trump , it’s about his policies vs the Democrats policies. Like economic growth,secure borders and strong military. Sounds radical doesn’t it, or as the Dems often claim, racist!!


#1228

Well, here’s something to rejoice about???

walking-dead-season-8-will-feature-first-fully-nude-zombie.html


#1229

Here’s the story, with a clickable link:

‘The Walking Dead’ Season 8 will feature first ‘fully nude’ zombie

Well, the creators are exercising their “artistic license”. I used to work in Chicago - years back. It was in the field of software engineering. And I took out a membership, to the Chicago Art Museum. During the lunch hour, I would go hear an" expert" speak. They would take a museum display or exhibit - and talk about it. Some exhibit items would strike me as shocking. But the “expert” had no issues with them.

Which is actually the subject, of a Twilight Zone episode at Eye of the Beholder

Which raises DEEP philosophical questions, about what is beautiful - and what is not. Which I am also raising. As an artist, as well as an armchair philosopher and theologian. :slight_smile:

Here’s the full 22-minute episode - commercial free.