But according to the BBC, a “prestigious” newspaper (i.e. admired by folks, like Dave and Steve) - got into trouble for this article!
So, now the Dems are complaining that they weren’t told in advance about the Baghdadi raid and couldn’t claim any leaking fees from their media pals.
I went back to the start of this thread, eons ago (before I joined EU), to see what John Piper wrote about Donald Trump at the commencement of his presidency.
Donald Trump’s immoral behavior in the past, and his ongoing unwillingness to renounce it as evil, show that he is morally unfit to lead our nation. So was Hillary Clinton because she approves of killing unborn children.
I am sure that others have commented on Piper’s virtuous condemnation of Trump’s character. Presumably, he has personal knowledge of Trump to be able to be so derogatory of a fellow human being. Being a good Calvinist, he is surely aware that not one of us is perfect, sinless. Isaiah, an earlier good Calvinist, pointed out: “for all of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment” (Isa. 64:6).
I trust Piper prayed constantly for Donald John Trump.
I don’t have a lot of faith in both sides on this issue, or any issue, really. I certainly don’t trust Trump and I certainly don’t trust the mob who is trying to take him down.
The only way I will be able to form an opinion is if they release this information to the public. All of it. Not just clips here and there, cherry picked by both sides. I need to see and hear it all. I don’t trust anyone else to be fair minded about it.
That said, I can form an opinion on this part: The burden of proof falls upon the Democrats to prove that Donald Trump’s offense is impeachable and should be impeached. He is the elected president and therefore gains the benefit of the doubt, and therefore the burden of proof (to shift it away from “he said, she said”) falls squarely upon the Democrats.
I typically lean left-center on most issues and the results of this process is certain to sour me to the point of never voting Democrat or Republican again, depending on what we find out.
Me neither.
If you subscribe to evenaglical Christianity, or even mainstream Christianity, it would be difficult for you to defend Trump as some rightous servant of God. Even impossible, really.
Trump is immoral by the standard set by most Christians upon their interpretation of Jesus and Paul and Peter. That really isn’t contested, as far as I know…
But since I am not really in that camp, I am not convinced he really is more immoral than most people. Certainly he is flawed, as am I. But, I reject or rather, do not accept the concept of perfection or even expected perfection. So in this regard, I don’t really agree with the mainstream views. That said, I don’t like the guy and I think he is probably a sheister. I think his ethics are questionable, as we’re Bill Clinton’s. Funny that the right didn’t defend Clinton… I means, both Clinton and Trump seem to be morally similar, in different ways, of course.
Long winded, I know… Essentially, I am calling out the Christian right for giving Trump a pass. It shows they have a double standard. Not acceptable to me.
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Agreed. I don’t really know many people who do give him a pass though I don’t doubt there are many who do. I certainly don’t think of him as a righteous servant of God, no.
But as you know - how many of the Prez’s we’ve had HAVE been? Kennedy walking a street knocking on doors asking about a particular prostitute - did not make the papers. Obama bowing literally to Arab emirs? Sending $150B on a pallet to Arab leaders? Well no need to belabor the point - we haven’t had saints for Prez.
I do happen to like Trump, but he gets no free passes from me - nobody does. It’s a put-up or shut-up type of thing.
And the beat goes on:
" Democrats continue assault on A.G. Barr, DoJ
People are nervous. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) is on a mission to smear A.G. Barr and the Department of Justice to taint any findings coming out of the DoJ.
Takes one to know one. “Bill Barr, on the president’s behalf, is weaponizing the Justice Department to go after the president’s enemies,” Schiff said on ABC‘s “This Week with George Stephanopoulos.” “He’s demonstrating once again that he is merely a tool of the president, the president’s hand, not the representative of the American people.”
You can feel the panic.
“If these reports are correct and now Bill Barr’s Justice Department is doing a criminal investigation of people who properly looked into Russian interference in our election in the FBI or the intelligence agencies, it means that Bill Barr on the president’s behalf is weaponizing the Justice Department to go after the president’s enemies,” Schiff told Martha Raddatz on ABC’s “This Week.”
This is just silly and you can really see how the Democrats’ strategy is to manipulate the public with propaganda"
You are free to ridicule my explanation of the Constitution’s relevance and provisions if you like.
But your partisan angry ad hominem denunciations do not address or refute anything I contend.
I avoid “speculation” on the impeachment “inquiry”…and wait until the final card hand, has been played. 
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I should too, I suppose. But when I see a stacked deck, and the dealer doing things in secret, I don’t have much hope of a fair game.
I admire you, Bob, for your efforts to stand against the maximal positions of three Trump devotees!
But you must realize by now that such efforts are wasted energy. For in the eyes of Trump devotees (I won’t go so far as to say Trump worshipers), Mr. Trump can do no wrong.
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Not quite true, Don. I think he should tone down his rhetoric much more than he has.
You realise, of course, that what you allege about Trump could be equally applied to his opposition in the US Congress? But perhaps I am being unfairly hard on models of rectitude like Adam Schiff, Nadler and their ilk?
I alleged nothing about Trump—rather about Trump devotees.
Yes, thanks. All my observations of my experience tells me your conclusion is solid and unassailable!
So when I perceive that such fervor straight out avoids the actual substance of a more balanced critique, why do I keep vainly feeling bound to point it out or challenge that outlook?
I reckon that I am a stubborn and slow learner, but at least my tilting at windmills lets those who are not American nationalists know that all Americans don’t embrace such a fervent passion.
Bob, I reckon it takes one to know one? Lol. 
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Time for their battle cry!
You Trump haters are more devoted to your illusions than we who measure DT by what he does, not by what our mind-readers in congress tell us he’s thinking.
Have you forgotten than any man is presumed innocent? Unlike the Dems - “We know he is guilty of something - we just have to find it.”
Don, when did you start not understanding English? When I said - measure by what he does; you said - I almost worship. That’s waaaaay off what I do. Get a grip.
I find such ad hominem assertions that everyone who differs is just devoted to blindness (or elitist, or full of B.S. etc) , exemplify the kind of frustrating response to observations others present, because they offer nothing to chew on for anyone interested in evaluating the substance of presidential actions that have been cited.
Glad we agree on this, I think I have repeated this many times.
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Yet Bob you are just fine with agreeing with Paidion’s use of the description “Trump devotees”
and not realizing how “ad hominem” this expression actually is? It’s purpose is to portray Trump supporters as unthinking Zombies, but that’s OK because it suits your position.
BTW i’m not sure if I qualify for this Fab Three Group though I have said a dozen times I don’t personally like Trump but what I like is Capitalism and Conservatism.