The Evangelical Universalist Forum

How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

The Bible teaches both socialism and capitalism like China. China has the greatest economy. The general welfare clause in the US constitution lets the Government tax to provide for the general welfare of the people when the need arises. This is the interpretation held by the Supreme Court and was one of the interpretation given to it early on by a writer of the constitution. They debated it. One side thought that America would remain under slavery. This is the side taken by the narrow interpretation. The broad interpretation is the one held by the Supreme Court that judged the Social Security Act to be constitutional. This is the view held that envisioned revolution and freedom from slavery.

I’m not sure why Bloomberg had to apologize for being racist when he was only telling the truth, and for his programs of stop and frisk that saved countless lives?
Anyway: from a good article:

"Idiot conservatives were doing the idiot thing this week, screaming “racism!” in response to an old tape of former Mayor Michael Bloomberg defending stop-and-frisk, one of the policies that drove New York City murder rates down to Mayberry levels. They weren’t being ironic.

In the 2015 tape, Bloomberg makes the blindingly obvious point that if “95% of murders and murder victims are young male minorities” — as is true in New York City — then police should be questioning about 95% of young male minorities.

To stop crime, he said, you “put a lot of cops where the crime is, which means in minority neighborhoods.”

Bloomberg further explained that frisking young black and brown men for minor crimes is how you keep guns off the streets generally: “And the way you get the guns out of the kids’ hands is to throw them up against the wall and frisk them. And then they start, they say, ‘Oh, I don’t want to get caught.’ So they don’t bring the gun. They still have a gun, but they leave it at home.”

Does anyone with a functioning frontal lobe disagree with this? By pursuing the wacky idea of having cops frisk kids in high-crime areas for minor offenses like turnstile jumping, Mayor Rudy Giuliani cut the murder rate from more than 2,000 per year to about 600. No one thought it could possibly go any lower — and then Bloomberg got murders down to an unfathomable 300 or so per year.

Giuliani and Bloomberg did more for black and brown people than all living Democrats combined. In New York City alone, at least 20,000 more black men are alive today than would be under the genius crime-fighting ideas of prior administrations (and The New York Times )."

Dave B. proves he’s a racist as well. As someone who attends AA/NA I can say the crime, sin, and violence effect all. Most of those that attend the groups I go to are Doctors, Judges, Lawyers, Military, Politicians, pilots, Hospital chaplains. Sin is no respecter of persons. AA is where I met my sponsor who is a multimillionaire. The upper class do some pretty crazy things.

Hmmm…I’m proving to be quite the SOB!! Dang. Anyway I guess you saw that the article was about SAVING black lives, right? Or maybe you didn’t. I try to not respond to you Michael but sometimes, being the SOB I am, I fail.

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Not only does the Bible teach Socialism but it also teaches Capitalism in this passage:

Matthew 25:14-30 English Standard Version (ESV)

The Parable of the Talents

“For it will be like a man going on a journey, who called his servants and entrusted to them his property. To one he gave five talents, to another two, to another one, to each according to his ability. Then he went away. He who had received the five talents went at once and traded with them, and he made five talents more. So also he who had the two talents made two talents more. But he who had received the one talent went and dug in the ground and hid his master’s money. Now after a long time the master of those servants came and settled accounts with them. And he who had received the five talents came forward, bringing five talents more, saying, ‘Master, you delivered to me five talents; here, I have made five talents more.’ His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a little; I will set you over much. Enter into the joy of your master.’ And he also who had the two talents came forward, saying, ‘Master, you delivered to me two talents; here, I have made two talents more.’ His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a little; I will set you over much. Enter into the joy of your master.’ He also who had received the one talent came forward, saying, ‘Master, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you did not sow, and gathering where you scattered no seed, so I was afraid, and I went and hid your talent in the ground. Here, you have what is yours.’ But his master answered him, ‘You wicked and slothful servant! You knew that I reap where I have not sown and gather where I scattered no seed? Then you ought to have invested my money with the bankers, and at my coming I should have received what was my own with interest. So take the talent from him and give it to him who has the ten talents. For to everyone who has will more be given, and he will have an abundance. But from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away. And cast the worthless servant into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

Now you are a deceptive lier. Anyone who looks into Sanders democratic socialism will see that it’s more in line with a social democracy. It’s capitalist with social programs. It is supported by the constitution. People said the same thing during the Great Depression when FDR started the New Deal and Social Security Act. They were saying it was socialism. We have tons of social programs in the US now.

From the Patheos’ Catholic newsletter. :crazy_face:

Let me quote a bit:

Here are a few of the ways that President Trump attacked American freedoms yesterday, Feb 11, 2020.

    1. Trump Fires Defense Official for Refusing to Break Law on His Behalf
    1. Barr takes control of legal matters of interest to Trump, including Stone sentencing.
  1. 3. Trump says he has the ‘absolute right’ to tell the Justice Department what to do.

    1. Trump slams 7-9 year prison proposal for Roger Stone, claims he ‘cannot allow this miscarriage of justice!’
    1. The DOJ Originally Set Roger Stone’s Sentencing at 7 to 9 Years. Then Trump Tweeted and They Changed Their Mind.
    1. All 4 federal prosecutors quit Stone case after DOJ overrules prosecutors on sentencing request
    1. Ex-prosecutor on Roger Stone: This Stinks to high hell
    1. Trump suggests the military should consider additional discipline for Vindman.

And on the lighter side, crazy, spiteful Trump crazies and spites on:

    1. Trump Mocks Bloomberg for ‘Having a Bad night’ in New Hampshire, a State Where Bloomberg is Not on the Ballot.

I found point 9 EXTREMELY interesting. :crazy_face:

Now I have to take a train ride, to clear my head. :crazy_face:

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Never mind those questions I asked Dave. This answers them here:

Yep, Trump’s tweets on Bloomberg as a “racist” for doing what Trump had always cheered was classic.

Trump Demands Justice for Victims of Sanctuary Cities

It’s time for leftist jailers who free dangerous illegal aliens to pay the price.
“This is another politically astute immigration-related proposal from Trump who demonstrates time and time again that he is one of the few Republican presidents in modern American history who actually knows how to fight the Left. It puts the illegal alien-coddlers and open-borders fanatics on the defensive and educates the public in clearly understandable terms about who the bad guys really are in this fight over the nation’s future. It comes almost a year after Trump proposed shipping immigration detainees to sanctuary cities, which are Democrat strongholds.”
" As FrontPage readers know, the sanctuary movement gave illegal aliens permission to rob, rape, and murder Americans by, among other things, stigmatizing immigration enforcement. Some left-wingers call sanctuary jurisdictions “civil liberties safe zones” to blur the distinction between citizens and non-citizens by implying illegal aliens somehow possess a civil right to be present in the U.S. Leftists also like to refer to all migrants, including illegal aliens, simply as “immigrants” in order to further muddy the waters. This helps the Left portray conservatives, who are generally not anti-immigrant –they’re anti-illegal immigration— as xenophobic bigots.

Sanctuary cities really ought to be called traitor cities because they are in open rebellion against the United States just as much as the Confederate Army was when it opened fire on Fort Sumter."
I continue to admire the common-sense things DT accomplishes.

A GOOD boss. :crazy_face:

A GOOD question. :crazy_face:

Amazon throws a legal punch. :crazy_face:

Time to vote. :crazy_face:

The bible does not teach socialism although you and Hugo Chavez agree on this. The bible teaches or rather Jesus teaches giving to the poor out of love for others not by forced confiscation. Jesus also acknowledges private property rights which socialism does not.
As far as China goes ask the million muslims in forced reeducation camps if they think China has the greatest economy or the millions of peasants who still live agricultural lives in primitive conditions. Ask the people in Wuhan province where disgusting living conditions lead to the outbreak of this virus. These people never make it on the tightly controlled state TV to tell their story. Ask the people who vanish if they displease the Chinese govt.

:+1:

Perhaps these Got Questions perspectives will help. :crazy_face:

Well, I provided the scriptures on socialism and no response. Jesus commands us to help the disabled poor sick. Love is a law. Freely obey the law of love or you will be punished. And we don’t have to look at China. Just look at America. Lets keep America great!

What’s happening in the rich state of Texas? :crazy_face:

Let me quote this important tidbit. :crazy_face:

Donald Trump, Jr. upset! “Little Bitey Things Were Everywhere!”

And a picture to boot. :crazy_face:

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Maybe this reminds me, of folks here - on political threads. You say something they don’t like, and they want to chew you up alive. :rofl:

So - this is STILL the strategy??? Cannot everyone see the weakness of the current Democrat Party now? It is all destruction. They offer nothing. This ain’t your Daddy’s democrat party.

Barr under fire as Dems vow to investigate AG, call for impeachment

He is hardly the first one serving Trump who finds unpresidential actions prevented his effectiveness.

I would be thrilled to see two robust parties offering platforms for real positive contribution to the country, so good that it would be hard to make a choice between them. That would be a luxury compared to this maelstrom. But then again, I’d also like to flap my arms and fly to the moon. :slight_smile:

(I heard that…)