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Is the Bible Misogynistic?

Theology
#96

A christian man(or woman I suppose, but in this example a man) could not consistently be a polygamist unless he at the very least…

  1. Had some very good reason unrelated to lust to justify marrying another woman(otherwise it would be founded by adultery).
  2. His wife or all of his wives supported him marrying another woman. A jealous or uncertain wife would have the right to put a stop to it, even if we misguidedly believe that jealousy is a dysfunctional, immature, or ungodly emotion.
  3. He was able to be a good husband to each of them and did not treat them with unfair partiality.

It is very hard to imagine any would-be polygamist meeting those conditions and that is generously assuming that it is even permitted by God to marry more than one person at once, which is questionable.

I have thought about whether there might be exceptional cases where a christian could be legitimately married to more than one woman without being at odds with scripture. I think the strongest case would be for a person that had already married multiple women(and each consented to each marriage) before they became christian. That is a dilemma for those of us that only believe in monogamy, but allowing for that exception would not mean that it is always legitimate. And there are very few if any situations where it would be ideal.

#98

Very true. The Bible is historical and history contains things that are offensive to us, some things which are sinful and some things that are just hard for us to understand in our current cultural box.

#99

A word I learned from the following article: MISANDRY. The flip side of misogyny. This points to an alarmingly common denominator shared by many of the mass-shooters and the young men who join extremist groups that are violence-prone, and of course the young men in black inner-city gangs.
FATHERLESSNESS - broken homes, no stable male influence, and increasingly a push toward gender fluidity.
Fatherless is the major point, but as to the flluidity issue -

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#101

I actually hope that they ARE trolling. Though we do get stories about this sort of thing being taught in grade schools where they are not trolling. Man, I feel for those kids.

#102

I know a man - very well indeed - who once attempted to watch his wife give birth to their fifth child. He failed miserably, passing out and laying prostate on the delivery room floor while nurses carefully stepped over his body. That man never even tried to watch the next four of his children enter this world.

I can only assume that men are not programmed to give birth. Maybe a few could, but not this particular one!

#103

It is amazing what we are capable of when we are forced to do something. Human nature tends towards the path of least resistance.

Yes, biologically, men are definitely not intended to carry a baby. Never the less, men would rise to the occasion if necessary.

That said, passing out has more to do with the individual, not the male/female aspect. Many people pass out at the sign of blood. This is likely the case with your friend. Lots of blood and fluids during that process. It is more gross than it is anything else, IMO.

#104

I’ve never had the pleasure to witness a birth personally, but my wife is a fan of all things medically gross, and has had me watch a few up close and personal youtube vids on the process. Now I tell her - you cannot get on my case for watching a monster movie - none of them are as bad as that vid!

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#106

" On the trans issue, McGrath doesn’t stray too far from the theory and practice of Roz Ward, the Marxist lunatic responsible for the Safe Schools program.(This is an Australian program) McGrath would also introduce the alleged discipline of Gender Studies to the national curriculum because

Children need to understand that vaginas, penises, ovaries, testes and fallopian tubes are all mere social constructs. It is essential that we teach them that the very concept of gender is a fabrication, but is simultaneously the most essential aspect of their self-identity.

Has the sinister stupidity of the gender warriors ever been so neatly encapsulated?

McGrath is similarly insightful on the subject of race and the tendency of the wokesters to lift and level the heavy charge of racism with remarkable ease:

We need to challenge the lazy assumption that people aren’t racist just because they never say or do racist things.
-Quadrant
Ok full disclosure: Quadrant is reviewing a new book of satire:
https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/review/2019/11/titania-mcgrath-the-wokest-of-the-woke/