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Whoever would make such an utterance does not know what religion is.
“Religion” means “duty to God” or “duty to gods.”

Christianity is not a religion only if Christians have no duty to God.

“Your fierce spirit and efforts will, in time, transform those boulders in your path into pebbles in the sand.”-- Peg Streep

“The first five days after the weekend are the hardest.”-- Author Unknown

“Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are.”-- Benjamin Franklin

You evidently are not familiar with the man of God, A.W. Tozer, the source of the quote.

“I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I would toss one that ain’t never been seen by this generation.” - Satchel Paige-

“Preach the Gospel always and sometimes use words” (especially around kids) - St Francis Assisi-

“There is none so blind who will not see.” variation on a Proverb from John Heywood

“Anyone who has a continuous smile on his face conceals a toughness that is almost frightening.”-- Greta Garbo

Where do you get the notion that Tozer is the source? The quote comes from Chapter 1 of George MacDonald’s novel “Donal Grant.” They are MacDonald’s own words.

And, by the way, I am familiar with Tozer.

Dear Paidion: If George MacDonald is the foundation for the quote in question, your original comment is even more in la la land. Both of these individuals walked in dimensions few of us can dream of!!

“One hundred religious persons knit into a unity by careful organization do not constitute a hurch any more than eleven dead men make a football team.” ― A.W. Tozer

“Christianity is not a religion. Christianity is the proclamation of the end of religion, not of a new religion, or even of the best of all religions. If the cross is the sign of anything, it’s the sign that God has gone out of the religion business and solved all of the world’s problems without requiring a single human being to do a single religious thing. What the cross is actually a sign of is the fact that religion can’t do a thing about the world’s problems - that it never did work and it never will.” -George MacDonald-

It’s not as hard as you think. But let me preface this, with a quote:

Those who know do not speak . Those who speak do not know .” ― Lao Tzu, Tao Teh Ching

Not here is a TRULY wise person!

“Don’t worry about failures, worry about the chances you miss when you don’t even try.”-- Jack Canfield

Would you please provide the source for this quote?

I have a book of thousands of GMD’s words. I looked up the ones under the title “Religion.” There were 14 quotes in this section. Yours was not one of them.

Actually GMD had a positive attitude toward religion as the following examples indicate:.

Religion is simply the way home to the Father (Donal Grant 6)

Religion is no way of life, no show of life, no observance of any sort.It is neither the food nor the medicine of being. It is life essential. (The Marquis of Lossie)

Whoever thinks of life as a something that could be without religion, is in deathly ignorance of both. Life and religion are one, or neither is anything. (The Marquis of Lossie)

Love without religion is the plucked rose. Religion without love—there is no such thing. Religion is the bush that bears all the roses; for religion is the natural condition of man in relation to the eternal facts, that is the truths, of his own being… (What’s Mine’s Mine 202-3)

I’ve looked all over and could not find GMac saying that. It does not sound like his thought at all imo.
" If the cross is the sign of anything, it’s the sign that God has gone out of the religion business and solved all of the world’s problems without requiring a single human being to do a single religious thing. " - that is completely foreign to GMAC’s thought.
He would not say that all the world’s problems have been solved - how could anyone say that?

Dear Paidion: You my friend are the source.

The quote comes from Chapter 1 of George MacDonald’s novel “Donal Grant.” They are MacDonald’s own words.

“Christianity is not a religion. Christianity is the proclamation of the end of religion, not of a new religion, or even of the best of all religions. If the cross is the sign of anything, it’s the sign that God has gone out of the religion business and solved all of the world’s problems without requiring a single human being to do a single religious thing. What the cross is actually a sign of is the fact that religion can’t do a thing about the world’s problems - that it never did work and it never will.”

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I cant find it in Ch 1 of Donal Grant but it has definitely been said by Fr Robert Farrar Capon:
In The Mystery of Christ—and Why We Don’t Get It , Robert F. Capon writes:

Christianity is not a religion. Christianity is the proclamation of the end of religion, not of a new religion, or even of the best of all religions

“Trust is earned in the smallest of moments. It is earned not through heroic deeds, or even highly visible actions, but through paying attention, listening, and gestures of genuine care and connection.”-- Brene Brown

“Love exists only between persons, a fact that every philosophy tends to forget. God… appears only in the place of ‘the other’ in the ‘sacrament of our brother’. And it is only because He is the Wholly-Other (in relation to the world) that he is at the same time the one who, in his otherness, transcends even the inner-worldly opposition between this and that being.
Only because he is Over the world in he IN it. But being over it does not deprive him of the right, the power, and the Word, to reveal Himself to us as eternal love, to give himself to us and to make himself comprehensible even in his incomprehensibility.”

That’s the concluding paragraph to Balthasar’s “Love Alone is Credible”

I don’t understand!
Just now I looked through chapter 1 of Donal Grant. It’s not there!

Also, in what way am I the source? Did I state that it was in Chapter 1 of Donal Grant?

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“We are all trophies of God’s grace, some more dramatically than others; Jesus came for the sick and not the well, for the sinner and not the righteous. He came to redeem and transform, to make all things new. May you go forth more committed than ever to nourish the souls who you touch, those tender lives who have sustained the enormous assaults of the universe." -Philip Yancey-

“It is easy to be a slave to the letter, and difficult to enter into the spirit; easy to obey a number of outward rules, difficult to enter intelligently and self-sacrificingly into the will of God.” -Frederic Farrar-