, Robin"]youtube.com/watch?v=qnrJVTSYLr8&feature=player_embedded
I love this guy’s heart and his style (and what a lovely voice). Of course, I know where he is going and I think that he is mistaken but I like his way of getting there. It is a wise way to travel, even if he is heading in a wrong direction.
I can live with that.
I can get on with a bloke like this.Yes, I think you’re right Robin. Although it’s heartwrenching to see such humility, passion for the truth and God’s transcendence, caught in the grasp of theology that conflicts with his conscience 
Oh, that God would let him see His amazing love.
Chan: When we make statements like “Well, God wouldn’t do this would he?” Do you understand that at that moment you’re actually putting God’s actions in submission to your reasoning? You’re saying, “Well, God wouldn’t think that way or act that way because….”
Tom: You mean they way Abraham objected to God’s plans for Sodom with “Will you sweep away the righteous with the wicked?..Far be it from you to do such a thing—to kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?” It looks like Abraham does what Chan says we shouldn’t do.
I think we can and often do use God to justify our own misconceptions. And like Chan, I don’t want to do that. But that can’t mean there are no conceivable evils which believers are ever justified in refusing to attribute to God (which is all Abraham did) because, after all, God’s ways are not our ways (and the Isaiah passage is another thing altogether!).
I think Chan landed on the answer at 6 min’s in when he finally talks about Jesus as expressing the heart of God. He OUGHT to use that as a means of interpreting, or as a standard of measurement, for all else that’s attributed to God in the Old Testament (that Chan struggles about up to that point). But instead Chan lays them all up on the same level, which just means Chan fails to be truly ‘Christ-centered’ at this point in his hermeneutic.
Tom
If God’s ways are so much higher than our ways, how can we possibly decide which god is GOD?
It boils down to a simple mantra;
“Don’t question God, if it leads to questioning Tradition. In Tradition we trust.”
“You (they) invalidate the word of God for the sake of your tradition” - Jesus Matt.15:6 NAS
Someone linked the video to me on facebook, and of course; I can’t even really finish the video.
Worst part is, the person who linked it wants my opinion on it… 
And she doesn’t seem like the type who will be at all interested in a Universalistic interpretation of things…
God’s ways are higher than ours, which means we know which way is UP.
Who is greater: the king who destroys his enemies by fire and slaughter, or the king who destroys his enemies by becoming one with them and making them his friends?
We want to hurt those we hate, which is why hell is so deeply rooted in our brains. God’s ways are higher. Where sin abounds, grace abounds even more.
You’ll never know, unless you try. You might be pleasantly surprised, maybe not straight away but down the track 
Amen!
A more recent commentary thread on this video has started now here.
My graphically irritable response to someone quoting Isaiah 55:8-9 (“My ways are higher than your ways” etc.) for purposes of crushing the hope of salvation and triumphant restoration of utterly punished ultra-sinners from sin, can be found here in that thread.
The short version is: the people who quote this have less than absolutely no idea what it is they’re quoting, or they wouldn’t dare do so for such a purpose.
So true. One of my favorite quotes is from “Shakespeare Retold, A midsummer night’s dream”. Oberon and Titania are having a disagreement, and Oberon tries to pull the tradition card on her. Her response: “Tradition is the place we like to go and hide when we have lost the argument.” 