The Superiority of ECT over Universalism

[Eaglesway]

I think Adam died biologically because he had died spiritually. If you cut a branch off of a vine, it will look “alive” for a while. Its fruit will remain on it for awhile. But is is no longer connected to the source of life, so it withers as it dries up and decays into nothingness.

“The Spirit and the Bride say ‘Come, let all who thirst drink freely form the water of life’”.

But Paul assures us that the branch can be grafted back in, “Therefore all Israel will be saved.”(Rom 9)

[St_Michael]

“The Spirit and the Bride say ‘Come, let all who thirst drink freely form the water of life’”.

This is an invitation to the reader of the prophecy of Revelation not to those in the lake of fire. We know this because the next sentence tells us:

I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll.

The gates in the city are opened to the whole world in the new creation or heaven and earth. The lake of fire isn’t part of the new heavens and earth.

“Therefore all Israel will be saved.”(Rom 9)

True Israel is the church or God’s children both Jews and Gentiles:

For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical. But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter. His praise is not from man but from God. (Romans 2:28-29)

But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all those who are descended from Israel are Israel, nor are they all children because they are Abraham’s seed; rather, “Your seed shall be called through Isaac.” That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God; rather, the children of the promise are counted as seed. For the word of promise is this: “At this time I will come, and Sarah shall have a son.” And not only this, but also Rebecca having twins, from one act with our father Isaac. Yet before the sons were even born and had not done anything good or bad—so that God’s purpose and choice might stand not because of works but because of Him who calls— it was said to her, “The older shall serve the younger.” As it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.” (Romans 9:6-13)

[St_Michael]

qaz,

I’m sorry that you like to personally attack a child of God just because they prove you wrong.

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[Paidion]

I don’t think you’re being fair to St. Michael, qaz. He is not a troll, and his statements are no more garbage than anyone else’s on this forum—indeed less so than some.