A Christian Response To North Korea

[Hermano]

From today’s Fox News article, “Trump: Talking to Kim Jong Un a waste, 'will do what needs to be done’”:

President Trump on Sunday sounded a war drum over North Korean leader Kim Jong Un refusing to abandon his nuclear weapons program, telling Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to stop wasting time negotiating with Kim because the U.S. “will do what needs to be done.”

“I told Rex Tillerson, our wonderful Secretary of State, that he is wasting his time trying to negotiate with Little Rocket Man,” tweeted Trump, using his mocking nickname for Kim. “Save your energy Rex, we’ll do what has to be done!"

[anon12438761]

Good for Trump; that’s encouraging.

[Holy-Fool-P-Zombie]

We also have pressing problems - here at home. Heres what I’ve shared on Twitter today:

Las Vegas shooting: 50 people killed in Mandalay Bay attack

This is not advocating some left wing, gun control - on my part. Just the opposite. I’m all for how guns were openly carried, in the wild west.

Just a footnote here. Folks at the country sheriff’s level, don’t normally deal with mass murders. They will (and are obtaining help), from other police agencies, the state highway patrol, the ATF and the FBI.

It will take some time, to review all the camera footage.

[Hermano]

From Fox News today:

“Air Force could recall up to 1,000 retired pilots after Trump order”

I should mention that the recall would be obligatory, and that the oldest USAF fighter pilot I knew was 36 years old when he was ordered to a desk job—so we are talking about “retired” military pilots who are still in their 30s, and now hold other positions.

(Although I suppose they could be older than that if they were used to remotely pilot unmanned aircraft…)

[Origen]

RW Schambach (@ Benny Hinn’s OCC) on rulers being nothing but God’s puppets:

youtube.com/watch?v=xVDkuMe257A

[Hermano]

*Could it be that the annual U.S.-South Korea joint exercise war games…are not actually being planned as “games” this year? ***

From the Wall Street Journal last month:

Vigilant Ace 18 drills, to be held Dec. 4 to Dec. 8, will involve thousands of troops, 230 aircraft

God is love. Let us remember the keys to the kingdom which Jesus offers us:

Matthew 16:19 Amplified Bible (AMP)

19 I will give you the keys (authority) of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind [forbid, [b]declare to be improper and unlawful] on earth will have [already] been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose [permit, [b]declare lawful] on earth will have [already] been loosed in heaven.

Very relevant to our role in prayer concerning the terrible situation with North Korea, Richard Murray says in his book, God vs. Evil:

[size=125]The original Greek of Matthew 18:18 and 16:19 both clearly say that we have the authority to bind on Earth that which is already bound in Heaven. Interlinear translations agree that these verses convey the idea that, “whatever you might bind on the Earth will be, having been bound in the Heavens already.”

This is why Jesus used the Greek imperative mood when teaching us “how to pray” in Luke 11:1-4. The imperative mood doesn’t ask, beg or cajole God. The imperative mood orders reality to conform to God’s already established will. Jesus isn’t asking God the Father to deliver us from evil in this passage. Jesus is ordering all reality to be conformed to His Father’s always already complete deliverance from evil. Consider John 15:7 which states, “If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.” The Greek word translated as “ask” in this passage is defined in Strong’s Concordance at 154 and 4441 as “strictly a demand of something due.”

In other words, the imperative mood merely orders our immediate sphere of influence to conform to the already completed work of the Cross. We don’t pray toward God to complete His promises. Rather we pray from God’s already established and completed work. Our prayer is a form of worship and release where we say yes and amen to all the promises of God which have already been fully performed by our magnificent Savior. Beloved, God has already rested from all of His works of deliverance, and so must we. “There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.” Heb. 4:9-11.

Do you see this magnificent reality of God’s salvation? Always already. Always already. God’s salvation is always already. This view of God changes everything. No longer is prayer seen as a laborious effort to get God to act or “change His mind.” Prayer is now seen not as a way to change God’s will, but rather as a way of implementing God’s will - - His “always already” will to all goodness. Worship is not based on what God might do someday, but rather true worship rejoices in what God has already fully accomplished. All we need do is to rest in the completed work of the Cross. Sure, there will be suffering. Sure, there will be temptation. Sure, there will be persecution. Sure, there will be occasional stumbles and a few set-backs. But in all these things, we are more than conquerors because Jesus has always already pre-conquered all these problems. Blaming God for allowing these problems is like blaming the fireman who pulls you out of a fire for starting the fire itself. God didn’t start the fire - - we did. God gave His own blood to rescue us from the fire of sin with which we have burned ourselves.

The blood of Jesus is much mentioned and much preached. But, one crucial aspect of the blood is neglected - - it was shed two thousand years ago. It is a past accomplished fact that Jesus’ blood once and forever disallows and cleanses all evil within us and outside us. Like the shining star at night mentioned previously, Jesus’ blood shines from two thousand years ago to “now.” While many today still close their eyes to this light, thus blocking God’s disallowance of evil, the body of Christ must learn to keep its eyes open to the “always already” kingdom of light. The major way we keep the eyes of our hearts open is to not err as a beloved brother-in-Christ by letting ourselves or anyone else say that God allows evil and that anything other than good and perfection ever comes from Him (Jas. 1:13,16). Those who continue to err by believing that God does allow evil are infected with wrong thinking. This Infection is the leading cause of unbelief today. I call this illness the Isaiah 5:20 Infection. It will be explored in the next chapter.[/size]

May the two Koreas be peacefully reunited soon, with religious and economic liberty for all.

Blessings.

[anon12438761]

It is a past accomplished fact that Jesus’ blood once and forever disallows and cleanses all evil within us and outside us.

I thought your post was fine, but I do not understand that sentence.

[Hermano]

"It is a past accomplished fact that Jesus’ blood once and forever disallows and cleanses all evil within us and outside us."

I thought your post was fine, but I do not understand that sentence.

Dave, as to the composition of that specific sentence of Murray’s, I can’t say for sure. God doesn’t allow evil, in that He has already disallowed all evil through the victory of the cross, through the Lamb who was slain from the foundation of the world. And so the gist of effective prayer is: more binding and more loosing; less petitioning, and instead, more thanksgiving for, and imperative proclamation of, the promises of God.

Regarding the NK situation, we must be careful to distinguish between nationalism and Christianity, between physical militancy and spiritual militancy. We need more binding and casting out of lying spirits of death and destruction, and more loosing of divine blessings, of angelic protection, and of the proclamation of the gospel of peace.

Hebrews 2:3, 8 (NKJV)
3 How shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation, which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed to us by those who heard Him,

8 "You have put all things in subjection under his feet.”

For in that He put all in subjection under him, He left nothing that is not put under him. But now we do not yet see all things put under him.

Regarding these verses, Murray also writes in God vs. Evil,

This passage is clear that all things have already been put under Jesus, but we don’t yet see them put under Jesus. The reason? Because of our individual and corporate “neglect” of “so great a salvation.” Both Satan and Evil have no gasoline left in their tank because Jesus drained it all away at the Cross. They are functioning today solely off of the fumes of our neglect of Jesus’ great salvation. What makes this salvation so great is its “always already” aspect.

[Paidion]

So how do you all see it now that Trump has backed out of meeting with the North Korean leader? Will North Korea continue with its nuclear development until it can direct a barrage of nuclear missiles to United States?
Danger! Danger!! DANGER!!!

[maintenanceman]

Please tell what the DANGER, DANGER, DANGER is !!!

[Holy-Fool-P-Zombie]

Please tell what the DANGER, DANGER, DANGER is !!!

Well, I don’t blame Trump at all. ALL previous Republican and Democratic US presidents, have tried to have dialogues with North Korea - without success. And Kim has used public insults - towards the US. Trump is not shutting down dialogue. He’s just publicly putting it on hold. The next move is up to North Korea. Along with some “coaching”, from China. Here’s a story from the BBC today:

• North Korea ready to talk ‘at any time’ with Donald Trump

[Paidion]

Please tell what the DANGER, DANGER, DANGER is !!!

Nuclear war between North Korea and United States!
From there it may escalate as various countries align with one side or the other.

[maintenanceman]

Do you really think that could happen?

[Holy-Fool-P-Zombie]

Nuclear war between North Korea and United States!
From there it may escalate as various countries align with one side or the other.

Hum! I know which side China would probably take. But what side would Russia stand with?

It’s definitely the end of the world, as we know it. And perhaps the beginning, of the
Zombie Apocalypse.

• The enemy of my enemy is my friend

[maintenanceman]

REM Gotta love it.