some say working on Saturday is Mark of the beast,
ELM said anti-Christ (in the place of Christ) will establish the Mosaic Law (a false religion),
any ideas?
oh yes, that sounds like a Seventh Day Adventist position, maybe? although i confess i don’t know a lot about them. i once rode with a cabbie that turned out to be a believer. he advocated a rather strong view about the Sabbath. i could see his point, but didn’t agree.
i’ve heard some say the mark of the beast could be a metaphor for what it’s like to live in a country that doesn’t like Christians. such a place makes it difficult for those that do not conform to this anti-Christian stance to work or buy, which fulfills some of that. but then, it depends on your interpretation of Revelation. if you are Preterist, than Nero was the Antichrist, and thus the mark of the beast would be conforming to his rule.
i would think it is a spiritual mark, rather than physical, but i would think it has more to do with allegiance to this world system than with what day you keep as holy.
Greetings,
Here are two articles (not written by me) I found them quite interesting and informative.
I hope you enjoy them and that this helps. 
[pearl-forehead.blogspot.com/](http://pearl-forehead.blogspot.com/)
[4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.c ... beast.html](http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/05/mark-of-beast.html)
Agape, Obadiah
I’m convinced the mark of the beast is our carnal natures. A sign or mark is actually a display of our actions that either show the nature of Christ or our own flesh.
I always seen the mark on the forehead as how a person thinks and the hand as how they act.
Pro 23:7 For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink, saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee. 
We can speculate concerning “the mark of the beast”. But we should examine the only book which mentions it(the book of Revelation)to see what we can learn about it. There are only two verses which contain the phrase “mark of the beast”, Rev.16:2 and Rev. 19:20. In both verses, bearing the mark of the beast or receiving the mark is conjoined with worshipping the image of the beast.
Revelation 13:17 actually DEFINES the mark of the beast!
… so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. (RSV,ESV)
Though the words “that is” have been added by the translators, I believe the above translation gives the correct meaning. A more literal translation would be:
…and that no one is able to buy or sell except he that has the mark, the name of the beast or the number of his name.
“The name of the beast or the number of his name” stands in apposition to “the mark”. This means that the mark of the beast IS either the name of the beast or the number of his name.
Revelation gives the number of his name as 666. In the days Revelation was written, as well as the centuries which followed, the number of a name was determined by adding up the numerical value of the Greek numerical equivalent of each letter in the name. In "Against Heresies, Book 5, ch. 30, Irenæus proposed the following possibilites:
Evanthas- ευανθας- This name is obscure, but may be the name of a demon. (ε5 υ400 α1 ν50 θ9 α1 ς200)
Lateinos- λατεινος-The Latin man (λ30 α1 τ300 ε5 ι10 ν50 ο70 ς200 )
Teitan- τειταν- A divine name, the name of a race of powerful gods, a name which was given to the sun. (τ300 ε5 ι10 τ300 α1 ν50)
If you add up the values for the Greek letters in each name, you will find the sum is 666.
Irenæus says that he makes no allegation concerning “ευανθας”.
He says that “λατεινος” is very probable, this being the name of the last kingdom [of the four seen by Daniel]
He says that “τειταν” is worthy of credit. It is an ancient name “removed from ordinary use”. He says it is a name belonging to a tyrant. He says several other things about it, and concludes that "there is a strong probability… that he who is to come shall be called “Titan”.
Yet Irenæus’s final word on the matter is this:
So it would seem that “the mark” is either the name of the beast (possibly “τειταν”), or the number of the beast (666) placed on the right hand or forehead (Rev.13:16). Perhaps it will be placed there as a tattoo.
Oh, thanks everyone 
I’m not an expert on Revelations. But my understanding is that the Beast represents empire (specifically the Roman empire in which the writer lived). So it would stand to reason that the mark of the Beast is that one has bought into the oppressive, tyrannical authority structure systems of the world and is trying to use them to exalt oneself.
I just read the following in the book I’m currently reading, “Jesus and Empire: The Kingdom of God and the New World Disorder” by Richard Horsley:
The scriptures themselves give us insight into these marks. This is where I prefer to derive my understanding.
God once decreed what He expected men to do with His teachings, at Deut.11:18…
“Fix these words of mine in your hearts and minds; tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads”
The scripture at Deut.6:6,8 tells us, that when a “symbol” is on one’s hand and forehead, it can indicate that some directive teaching is in our hearts and minds.
See also Deut.6:6,8–
" 6 These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. 8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads."
The worshipers of the Beast (Rev.13:8) have exchanged the truths of God (Deut.6:6,8) for a lie (!sa.44:20)
and worship the creation (Rev.13:8) rather than the creator. (Rom.1:21,25)
That created Idol (Rev.13:15), directs the hearts, minds and actions of it’s worshipers,
so they are symbolically marked by it’s doctrines instead of being symbolically marked by God’s commandments.
As such, that teaching directs our thinking (“forehead”), and actions/deeds/power (“hands”). If a teaching totally controls our mind and life, we can be symbolically branded as slaves to those teachings.
When considering Rev.13:16, verse 17 confirms that these marks are controlling, since without them, we can not “buy” or “sell”.
Remembering that Revelation is written entirely in symbolic illustration, this “buying and selling” is also symbolic.
Not only does Christ also “sell” (Rev.3:18) (also consider Matt.25:9,10); but there are other slave-marks by which we can be symbolically branded as obedient to (Rev.7:3; 14:1; 17:5; 3:12).
To have the name of the Beast (or it’s number 666) as controlling of one’s mind and actions, is also interpretative by means of scripture.
The Bible gives significance to numerals, especially in Revelation. Ever since the beginning of scriptural history, the number 12 relates to divine arrangement, such as in 12 tribes, 12 apostles, 12X12=144000, etc. The number 6 is half of 12. This is the first clue that led me to the full scriptural understanding of 666, and how that becomes the name of the Beast and the slave mark of it’s worshipers.
12 symbolizes truth, confirmed and established by means of “two witnesses”…
John8:17 reads: “In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true.”
Two witnesses (in Revelation --Rev.11:3) is the symbol for true prophets.
Scripture also tells us that only one witness is a good as a lie.
If 12 symbolizes two witnesses, one witness would be symbolized by 6, and would be considered a liar.
It is related to the "three frog-like demonic expressions (lying deceptions) issuing forth from the mouth of 1. Dragon; 2. Wild Beast; 3. False Prophet (Rev.16:13,14). Jesus made clear that what comes out of Satan’s mouth, are lies (John8:44; Rev.12:15; 16:13,14; 2Thess.2:9,10).
(Not up to writing the whole article here again, but if anyone is interested in a deeper consideration of the meaning of 666,
it’s at pearl-666.blogspot.com).
Clearly, the mark of the Beast controls those who worship it’s image. That control of one’s actions and thoughts, is symbolized my being branded on one’s forehead and right hand (Isa.44:20). The ever-growing number of related scriptures I discover, all confirm this same interpretation; so I’m personally convinced as to what this mark is.
What excites me personally, is seeing this interpretation fulfilled today. That fulfillment went totally un-noticed by me, until I saw this symbolic interpretation. Isn’t it a simple truth, that our lives are dictated by what we believe, even as Deut.11:18,1,32 and 6:6,8 display?
Yet, what “comes out of the mouth of the Wild Beast”, replaces God’s truths in the lives of it’s worshipers (Rev.16:13,14).
Hi Pearl
Nice to meet you and welcome to the site:
Where and how do you see it as fulfilled today? Is the mark of the beast and it’s significance a prophecy of these times, or of these times only? Doe shave a more general meaning throughout history? Did it also have a meaning specific to the first century? I guess those are my questions after reading your blog -
Blessings to you
Dick
Don’t you think it would have been a good idea to tell everybody that these interesting and informative articles were in fact written by your wife, Obadiah?
Or maybe you “only just” read them, like you say you did her article on the kings of the earth, even though it was written some 18 months ago?
On the number 666 - I’ve also heard/read that since numbers corresponded to letters, 666 spelled “Nero” - see here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_beast
John,
I don’t know why you are so suspicious, but the date on the blog has nothing to do with it’s release.
I have many blogs that are started but are not yet ready for release. Blogspot dates them the day they are started.
The date of that article’s release, is here : 4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/09/there-is-new-article-who-are-kings-of.html
Being the mate of someone anointed, does not necessitate that they be spineless and devoid of personal opinion.
My husband and I are able to engage in extensive discussion of what I am being helped to perceive. His resulting convictions stemming from my Bible-backed perceptions, move him to share his Faith and understanding. Who here is not doing that? Is a vicious backlash really called for?
Here’s an excerpt from the 666 article, for those who would rather not sort through the long intro…
Therefore, these 24 elders in heaven, are representative heads of the 144,000 priests and “12 tribes” of spiritual “Israel” (Rev.7:4; Rom.2:28,29; Gal.3:29; Matt.21:43; John15:5,8; Matt.7:20).
Now it’s time to do some “calculating”.
How many of the 144,000 does each “elder” represent?
The calculation is…
144,000 divided by 24, is 6,000.
So, each elder represents 6,000.
Each “witness/head of truth” (Rev.14:5; Isa.43:10,21; 1Pet.2:9) represents and stands for 6,000.
Why would this be…since each tribe consists of 12,000? (Rev.7:4-8)
Apparently, this is because there are two representatives (witnesses/heads/elders) over each tribe.
12tribes X 2witnesses(elders) = 24 elders
Why would that be?
Well, the Bible makes this reason clear…
(2Cor.13:1; Deut.19:15; 17:6; Matt.18:16; 26:60,61,62; Heb.10:28,29; Numbers35:30; 1Kings21:10,13; John8:17,18; Rev.11:3)
Two witnesses are always needed to establish truth. Truth is the entire essence of
this holy temple priesthood.
The 144,000 become sharers in the human personification of truth perfected (Rev.14:4,5).
Every duty these priests perform is based upon this pattern of truth…two witnesses.
How does this figure into our “calculation”?
As we have seen…these conquering priests pattern their dispensing of truth in perfection, and always by means of two witnesses.
(This will be studied in more depth in a future addition to the article
about the “Trees of Life”, and their monthly “crops” of “fruit”.)
Therefore, these two elders (two witnesses per each tribe), represent 12,000 priests, or one tribe. Yes…the number ascribed two faithful witnesses (or the number for truth), is twelve; or multiples of 12. It is derived from two witnesses. Each witness is represented by six (6+6=12) (144,000 is 12X12)
(Mark3:14,15; Luke22:30; Acts26:7; James1:1; John8:18; 11:9; Acts1:15; 7:8; Rev.7:5-8; 12:1; Rev.21:12,14,16,21; 22:2)
The entire Kingdom arrangement is based upon truth, two witnesses, and it’s symbolic number 12 (6+6).
I find interesting confirmation, in the fact that God’s Word contains 66 books.
**The fact that the “two-horned” beast has TWO horns like a lamb (Rev.13:11), yet “speaks like a dragon”, indicates that it appears to be true witnesses/prophet, who is imitating Christ;
but it is really an agent of Satan’s lies.
If Truth (two witnesses) is represented by twelve (6+6), then can you see that each single witness is represented by six?
What if we only had one witness? Would that establish truth?
(Deut.17:6b; 19:15; John7:18; 5:31; 8:13,14,18; Num.35:30) No…one witness is as good as a lie. The number 6, would represent a single, false, witness.
This is brought out for us when we compare Ezra2:13 and Neh.7:18.
Do you perceive the lesson in those two scriptures?
When there is only one witness for a fact, which do we believe?
We should not really put faith, in either. Two witnesses with the same story, are needed.
Now that we have calculated the meaning of the number 6, let’s return to Rev.13:18.
The number of the wild beast, and the man of lawlessness, is 666.
Does this interpretation follow through?
Remember the traits of both the “man”, the false prophet, and the “wild beast”?
(see Rev.13:6,14; 2Thess.2:9,10,11,12)
All who receive the mark of the beast on their forehead, believe and become slaves to lies.
(pearl-forehead.blogspot.com)
All who receive the mark on their right hand, have their willpower enslaved to lies (Isa.44:20; Psalm144:8,11; Rev.13:16; 2Thess.2:9; 2Tim.3:13; Rev.16:13)
They also become false witnesses of false witnesses, as seen in the scripture below.
We do receive confirmation of the meaning of 666, as representing slaves of deception…
Rev.16:13 “And I saw three unclean inspired expressions [that looked] like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and perform signs, and they go forth to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty.”
“Three…inspired expressions…expressions inspired by demons”. 666
The only unclean expressions of demons, are lies.
(2Chron.18:20,21; Rev.16:13; John8:44)
Three…a full amount of false witnesses to establish a lie, (2Cor.13:1)
causing it to prevail (2Chron.18:21; Rev.12:9; Rev.13:8; 2Thess.2:11,12)
Those three lying witnesses are mentioned here…the “dragon, the wild beast, and the false prophet”. Here we see who is behind the lies of the wild beast and man of lawlessness (2Thess.2:9; Rev.13:2). Lies are their wisdom, power, and riches (“gold”) (1Kings10:14; Isa.28:15).
We must only accept “gold” refined by fire (Rev.3:18) from Christ himself (Matt23:10; John7:18).
Why are the lies (6’s) described as “frog-like”?
In all creation, the life cycle of frogs is the most evolutionary. The change it’s life undergoes from invisible egg to land reptile, is drastic. Without fully knowing about this life cycle, we might think that one stage of it’s life is an entirely different species. Yes…the frog starts out barely noticeable. If one gave it’s development constant attention, the gradual change would be imperceptible.
If the tiny “egg” (lie…6) were called “Truth”, those enslaved through it’s progression would still call the full-grown Frog, Truth. (6+60+600=666)
Yes, Satan and these demons know human nature. They have brought about these lies so gradually, that it has gone undetected by those mislead by them. Those who are perishing and enslaved to the wild beast, still feel that these obvious lies, are truth. (Rev.16:13) Their foreheads have been branded like slaves, to lies (1Tim.4:1,2; Rev.13:16).
No one can “buy or sell” spiritual provisions, unless their mind and work is branded by the demonic lies of the Beast (Rev.13:16,17; 3:18). All others, will be “killed” (Rev.13:15; 11:7).
These demonic lies will cover the land…just as the plague of frogs did, in Egypt (Exo.8:1,2,3,4,5,6).
For those of us who know the Bible’s meaning of 666…
we are not mislead. We can see these full grown lies, for what they really are.
1Thess.5:4,5,6
Hello “Sobo”,
Thanks for the cordial welcome. I appreciate it.
Organized religious tyranny has been the sealing test of Chosen Ones since that generation began,
just as it was for Christ. “The world” is always against the messengers of divine truth (John15:19; 17:14). That “world” is primarily religious agents of Satan (2Cor.11:14,15; Matt.24:4,5,24,25; Rev.13:7)
This testing (Luke22:31; Acts14:22; Rom.8:17) comes to a conclusion previous to the “end” (1Pet.4:7; Matt.24:3,6,8) in what’s referred to a final battle of a long war (Rev.16:14,16; Gen.3:15; Rev.19:11,14,19; 12:7,10,11).
To pinpoint the location (situation/climate) where this is taking place, would require you to discern where the warriors engaged in this spiritual battle, are located (2Cor.10:4,5; Eph.6:12).
Do these scriptures address your question?
Hi I’ll have a ponder about this - certainly I think organised religious tyranny is meant by the Beast - but I’m not counting the end times clock as it were (for no one knows the day or hour). I think the enforced tribute by state religion in the Roman Empire is meant as the original context. You had to pay tribute to Caesar under Nero and Domitian or else you became a noncitizen/non-person without rights. But all forms of religious and ideological tyranny come under the mark of the beast including tyranny by authoritarian sects and churches - which seems to be a moving subtext in your posts. I understand you’ve had a horrible time with the JWs - and my heart goes out to you.
In Christ our Hen
Dick
Hello Pearl
I apologise for misconstruing the date of your blog article, and for the implication that Obadiah was being less than honest in referring to it.
However, don’t you think it odd, to say the least, that he chose not to disclose his relationship to you originally. Hardly a vicious backlash, I wouldn’t have thought.
I must say I am a little perplexed that the fruit of your being anointed has resulted in such a load of absolute cobblers as you have posted on this thread. Ho hum.
Dear Sobo,
Sorry, I edited after you read.
(Addition to last post)
Also,
Regarding no one knowing the day and hour,
we are still expected to discern the “season” (Matt.16:2,3; Luke19:44)
The final slaves also face an inspection (Matt.25:19) which they will fail to pass,
if they do not discern the season…being asleep and drunk.
Johnny,
I apologize for my lacking sophistication, but I have no clue as to what you mean by “a load of absolute cobblers”.
If you could kindly explain, I might be enabled to reply…if that’s what you wish.
I still don’t see the justification for accusing someone publicly as being a covert manipulative liar,
because they don’t disclose up front, their intimate relationships to the WWW.
Obadiah is trying to offer (for no one’s sake but the reader), information without inciting unfounded prejudice.
Jaded prejudice seems impossible to prevent in some people.
Could I have hidden our relationship? Did I ?
“Obadiah” is known on a number of forums as my husband.
He chose to register here as “Obadiah”, not some other misleading alias, which he could have if his motives were as you insinuate.
I’m sorry that you seem to be rejecting the information, even previous to a full consideration of the cited scriptures.
I wish you peace none the less, as I am fully aware that my efforts are not appreciated by most.
I did not comment here only for you. This thread was initiated by an open question.
If you respond similarly within such a thread, I promise not to rip your reply to shreds because of my instant opinion of you as a person,
or because your response doesn’t pleasure me. Can we please call a truce? “Live and let live”?
Well - discerning the season is knowing the hour of the Lord’s visitation? People in Jesus time expected to see him coming in a cretin way - but they misread the signs. He came quietly - his judgment was the cross and the resurrection. Personally I discern the Lords’ visitation today in the face of the outsider the stranger and the victim. When he come again bodily he comes again - until then I live in faith.
In Christ our Hen
Dick
Sobo,
I speak of the inspection and judgment of “God’s people”.
They exist well beyond the first century.
You can’t go wrong being loving.