I suppose, for you and I, the line where the Spiritual begins and the earthly world ends, is not the same boundary.
Have you heard of St.Augustine’s City of God/City of Man theory? Martin Luther, an Augustinian Monk, originally, used St. Augustine’s model, to develop one of his own. I am a Lutheran and have a fair working knowledge of his theory.
This is a tiny summary of what he believed:
Luther would explain that God ruled the invisible kingdom with His Word through faith and that God’s realm was not comprehensible through human reason. Moreover, in the worldly kingdom, Luther later distinguished three orders of rule comprised of human institutions: the orders of daily life (home and livlihood), the state, and the church. William J. Wright
So, if you would like to understand my concept of faith and reason, then I suggest you familiarize yourself with Luther’s concept of the 2 kingdoms. It is more complicated than can be explained here. Here is a link to the article where I got the quote from above, if you would like to read it.
wedgewords.wordpress.com/2010/0 … chapter-4/
Here is another link, to a LCMS Lutheran website, regarding this concept:
There is more info. on the LCMS website, under concepts of faith.
Basically God’s Word and the elements that are taught through His Word, cannot be understood in this world’s way of thinking. There are other rules…God’s rules…not Man’s …that define that realm. And, it is God’s rules, or ‘living in the Spirit’ that must dictate our decisions, actions, and understanding, in that realm.
3Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again. ”
4“How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!”
5Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. 6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’ 8The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
9“How can this be?” Nicodemus asked.
10“You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things? 11Very truly I tell you, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. 12I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things? 13No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.e 14Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up,f 15that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.”g
16For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.
I hope this helped, a bit.