I’m not a big Zender fan. I think he is too loose with his theology and this takes respectability away from UR, IMHO. I was reading some of his stuff a while back and it started out good and all of the sudden The guy doesn’t believe in the trinity, the Great Commission, Baptism (I think), and other key elements of Biblical Christianity. Notice I don’t say “historical” Christianity as I tend to go by the scriptures. He makes some great arguments but is far to heterodox for my taste.
I was worried what I was going to see after reading some of these comments. I thought he was pretty tame and especially when you compare him with Jesus in Mathew 23. I guess I’m with Sherman and can relate too much. It really does seem like it takes a brainwashing of a type to not contemplate more how a hell of ECT is consistent with a loving God. I know people have their ways of trying to get around it, all of which give up something somewhere and are not at all convincing to me. I know for myself that I wasn’t asking near enough questions before someone, Gene (Auggy) and my dad, started asking them for me. Thank goodness for them crazies! lol
I see what you did there. 
Calling the crazy-called, crazy-caller crazy. Brilliant!
I don’t mind people having fun 
I didn’t know whether you really wanted me to respond or not… but I don’t see any problem myself. The “always” was obviously conditional on “for as long as”, no? 
Nah, no need to respond, … but now that you have… If you had been writing something inspired by God to last through the ages to bring knowledge of God to the people, I assume you would have written, “There will be _____ until ______”
To be = to exist. Always to be = always to exist… to exist always. To modify “existence” with “until / for as long as” after it has been modified with “always”… that would be schizophrenia with inspired speech (unless of course, you didn’t really mean “infinite existence”).
Man… this kind of conversation always makes me hungry.
Maybe you meant “always” as in “continually repeated” / “over and over again”?
Okay … enough brain-babble. Have a great one today… or tonight, and remember this before you go to bed: In the USA, the water in the toilets swirls the correct way when flushed. You poor Aussies!
haha
I think this topic has seen more action than just about any thing I’ve posted…Seems as though this has hit a nerve or two.
I agree though, I think he should have used the word ‘irrational’.
Hmmm interesting site.
We are all nuts, but I think some fall a little further from the tree! 
But it’s always the others who fall furthest 
I have been way out there, and you know the old saying, “takes one to know one”! 
