We discuss that scripture several places on the forum. You should try searching for it.
I love listening to the 44th song in Handel’s messiah which uses these verses
youtube.com/watch?v=iMq5X0XMbW0
N.D. George should listen a bit and see if it doesn’t change his mind. The clear meaning of the words and tone of music make it hard to think “This refers to something like Moral Resurrection, Not really resurrection unto salvation”
it’s a bit sad that we get judged for “downgrading” the “hell” texts (which is actually the only logical thing to do with them, based on actual study)…yet theologians that downgrade the “Universalist proof texts” don’t see that they’re doing the same thing.
what i mean is, what does it say about people that they’d RATHER the hell texts were literal as traditionally interpreted, as opposed to the Universal-salvation-for-all texts? i don’t think it’s cruelty or moral badness (in most cases), i think it’s just being afraid of getting it wrong…
i used to think that way (though in fairness i wasn’t aware of another viewpoint), and i think i just kind of ended up ignoring hell, in a way…while at the same time affirming it. this inner conflict led me to reject ECT eventually.
regardless, i find that it beggers belief that one could interpret that resurrection as anything other than real and literal. however, even a “moral” resurrection should be indicative of a great victory for all…if an estate agent could be resurrected morally, i’d say that person was saved (i am using an extreme example here…i’m sure we all know that estate agents aren’t human LOL)
Sorry, bit of an idiot here – can someone explain to me what a “moral resurrection” is? Does this mean “sanctification”?
darn good question, that.
is that like the “spiritual” end of the world Harold Camping was talking about?