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Fornication = joining in with the Baal pagan fertility god worship


#1

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Fornication is NOT single sex , and is NOT pre-marital sex.

God is very pro-sex, very pro-nudity, very pro-polygamy, and pro-sexual freedom all over the Bible.

The Bible, Paul correctly defines fornication as the joining in with the pagan worship of Baal pagan fertility god. Compare 1 Cor 10:8 to Nu 25: 1-9 Nu 31 God get super angry and kills over 23,000 in Nu 25 and in Nu 31 kills a lot more the 23,000 for doing fornication .

The reason is NOT because of sex, but the fact they join in the worship of Baal pagan fertility god. Sex was only the pagan’s bait to get people to join in with the worship of their Baal pagan fertility god and get the promise of good farm crops and very productive farm animals so they make lot more money.

http://inkaboutit4u.com/?p=Expose_Wrong_Sex_Teaching_With_URLs

http://inkaboutit4u.com/?p=Fornication_Does_NOT_have_10_different_meaning_like_they_want_to_tell_you

NOTHING IS WRONG with pre-marital sex.

The man made dictionary only reflexs how people use or misuses a word. Bible clearly defines the word correctly, if people take the time to study the word in context as it is used in the Bible. Paul’s fornication definition works for all the 39 fornication verses in the Bible.

The dictionary gives you many definitions for the same fornication word only because of the confusion people have about the word fornication.

Bible Translators used these confused wrong dictionary definitions to wrongly translate the word fornication into “sexual immoral”. This is a Totally wrong ideal. The super major focus about fornication is NOT sex. The super major focus about fornication is the pagan Baal fertility god worship. This is what God gets super angry over all over the Bible times and God had many thousands of people killed over it. (23,000 plus in Nu 25 and over 30,000 in Nu 31 and more then that all over the Bible all for the same reason.)

God is very pro-sex, very pro-nudity, very pro-polygamy, and pro-sexual freedom all over the Bible.


#2

Actually, the Greek word πορνη (pornā) means “prostitute.” The English word “pornography” is derived from this Greek word. It means “depicting prostitutes.”

The Greek word πορνεια (porneia) is the word that is translated as “fornication.” It means “prostitution” or “consorting with prostitutes.”


#3

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Yes, you may be right, but your problem and most all other people problem is that you all ignore context. You take it out of context to come up with false conclusions.

Lies and false teachings can be created by taking words, even Greek and Hebrews words, out of context which is what most people do.

Correct Context is super important to get truth. To discover the correct context require that a person study and research themself to find out what is going on in 1Cor 10:8 and Nu 25:1-9 and Nu 31 and in my case, read (using Bible audio tapes 3 different versions) the whole Bible 6 times in 3 months to study Sexuality in the whole Bible, in context, with each situation and praying to God over every Bible verse, for God to show me truth, so I clearly understand those verses in God’s context with Bible sexual teaching in the Whole Bible.

The super very important context you are leaving out is that they are Pagan worshiping Pagan fertility god prostitutes, whose job is to bait or seduce people to get them to joining in with the worship of their pagan fertility god worship.

http://inkaboutit4u.com/?p=Fornication_in_Corinth_Fertility_god

http://inkaboutit4u.com/?p=Expose_Wrong_Sex_Teaching_With_URLs


#4

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Also you take “pornography” out of Bible context.

http://inkaboutit4u.com/?p=Pornography_What_it_is_and_What_it_is_NOT

In the Bible days they created clay, stone, metal and other material, images and paintings of the pagan Baal fertility pagan god to use in the worship of their pagan fertility god. This may been call something like “pornography”. This is the correct context in the Bible days.

Today, nude photos of normal loving humans being, nude, or enjoying their God giving, God designed sexual pleasure, is NOT worshiping any pagan fertility god as a creator god, that they worshiped in the Bible days.

Playboy first photos were of a NUDE women and religious people called that “pornography” saying it was “fornication” . That is 100% WRONG.

God created everything 100% NUDE, including humans, and God called it excellent or very good. Gen 1:31. God did not call it fornication of any kind.

http://inkaboutit4u.com/?p=Naturism_Christianity_Supports_Naturism

God put Adam and Eve and 100% creation on earth, 100% open public nude. God wants all creation to be NUDE. Today, God still wants all creation to be nude including all human especially all Christians, because we are the “NEW CREATION” in Christ, just like Adam and Eve were NEW CREATION in Christ before the fall into sin.


#5

There is most definitely a big difference between nudity and pornography. I generally agree that our bodies are nothing to be ashamed of in the nude. However, I do believe that it can be exploited and generally is. Therefore, for the most part, I don’t agree with the way nudity is used.

In most cases the nude body is ordinary, not that attractive in a sexual sense. However, magazines like the one you mentioned do airbrushing, putting the models in suggestive poses and with facial expressions that call to you as a prostitute would. For that reason, I do find it hard to justify that type of thing as “heathy”. On the other hand, mans (and womans) natural desire for sexual relations is nothing to be ashamed of. If a young person were to tell me that he struggled with pornography, I would not shame them, but I would point out the the unhealthy nature of it in the same way I would eating junk food. I wouldn’t deny junk food is tasty and good nor would I tell a young person that they were irreparably broken because they succumbed to these temptations from time to time.

So I somewhat agree with the OP, but definitely not on all points. I think there is way too much sexual shame being pushed onto people for effectively being human. Somehow the puritanical mindset has prevailed in Evangelical Christianity dragging otherwise normal people into shame fueled lives.

On that note, I’ll also add that nudity has been used in Renaissance (and previous ages) Christian art for ages and only in the last 100-200 years has it become “evil” in Christian circles.


#6

The context of the two words I defined do NOT indicate anything at all about “being Pagan” or “Pagan fertility god worship.” Here is a complete list of the sentences containing the word πορνεια (porneia) which some versions translate as “fornication” in the New Testament (other than those in the final book of Revelation). Look up the context of ANY of these sentences and you will find not the slightest reference to worship of pagan fertility god worship:

Mt 5:32 “But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except πορνεια (porneia) causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery.

Mt 15:19 “For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, πορνεια (porneia) thefts, false witness, blasphemies.

Mt 19:9 “And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for πορνεια (porneia), and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.”

Mr 7:21 “For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, πορνεια (porneia), murders,

Joh 8:41 “You do the deeds of your father.” Then they said to Him, “We were not born of πορνεια (porneia) we have one Father — God.”

Ac 15:20 “but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from πορνεια (porneia), from things strangled, and from blood.

Ac 15:29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from πορνεια (porneia). If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.

Ac 21:25 “But concerning the Gentiles who believe, we have written and decided that they should observe no such thing, except that they should keep themselves from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and fromπορνεια (porneia).”

Ro 1:29 being filled with all unrighteousness, πορνεια (porneia), wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers,

1Co 5:1 It is actually reported that there is πορνεια (porneia) among you, and such πορνεια (porneia)as is not even named among the Gentiles — that a man has his father’s wife

1Co 6:13 Foods for the stomach and the stomach for foods, but God will destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for πορνεια (porneia)

1Co 6:18 Flee πορνεια (porneia). Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.

1Co 7:2 Nevertheless, because of πορνεια (porneia), let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband.

2Co 12:21 lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and I shall mourn for many who have sinned before and have not repented of the uncleanness, πορνεια (porneia), and lewdness which they have practiced.

Ga 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, πορνεια (porneia), uncleanness, lewdness,

Eph 5:3 But πορνεια (porneia) and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints;

Col 3:5 Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: πορνεια (porneia), uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry.

1Th 4:3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you should abstain from πορνεια (porneia).


#7

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You only list 18 verses. If you look up all fornicate, fornication, etc word there are 39 of them.

You also left out 1 Cor 10;8 where Paul Defines the word fornication as the joining in with the pagan fertility god worship that fits in all 39 fornication word.

You left out Nu 25: 1-9 and Nu 31 where Paul refer back to what he defines as fornication.

Paul wrote more then half the verses you brought up, so you have to let Paul define the fornication word that he wrote, so you can understand what Paul is telling us.

You want to ignore Paul’s fornication definition and run to the Man made “Traditions of Men” definitions which Jesus greatly condemn the religious leader of his day.

Jesus could NOT teach the religious leaders of his day ANYTHING. They were all closed minded to their man made “Tradition of Men” teaching taught to them for a very long time. WHY? PRIDE!

Look at the below web site, I have all 39 verses plus more verses.

http://inkaboutit4u.com/?p=Fornication_Correctly_Defined_with_all_Bible_Verses

The context of all verses is that the Hebrews and Christians was totally surrounded by pagan fertility god worshippers. The biggest religious of all the Bible days was Baal pagan many gods worship.

This is the super major context.

Paul Defines fornication in 1 Cor 10:8 and Nu 25: 1-9 and Nu 31 and if you take the time to read the whole Bible you clearly see all over the places they are talking about the Baal pagan worshippers.

Also you see all over the place in the OT God is alway killing pagan Baal fertility god worshippers.

Also all over the place in the OT God’s express his greatly angry and hatred for pagan Baal worship.

50% of the time adultery word is used it is in connection of Baal pagan god worship the most popular one was the pagan fertility god, because this pagan fertility god claims to be the god who created sexuality and created reproduction of all things, plant, animals, humans and human sexual pleasure. This makes God super very angry where God has over 100,000 people killed.

100% of the time fornication is used is because of pagan Baal fertility god worship per Paul’s Bible definition.

Also these pagan Baal fertility gods demand baby sacrifices so the people can get more promise of more farm crops and more animal and more reproduction of everything resulting in make lot more money.

All this makes God super very angry to the degree that God was them all killed. Thousands of them, including 24,000 Hebrews in Nu 25: 1-9.

At the same time you sexual freedom where God does not say any negative words at all.

http://inkaboutit4u.com/?p=God_Gave_Sexual_Freedom_to_All_Creation

NOT only that but God himself strongly promotes polygamy rewarding soldier with more sex partner concubines as a great reward.

God kills a man because he refuses to get his brother’s wife pregnant

2 Sam 12:8 God himself gave David all Saul Wives and concubines and said if him want more he can have unlimited of sex partner. This is God promoting polygamy. But in USA they follow pagan Roman Empire and limit it to one man one women marriage. Why don’t they copy God plan of sexual freedom and have many wives like they did when God or Hebrews are in rule.

Solomon clearly understood this SOS 6:8 That he could UNLIMITED SEX PARTNERS

You do not see the very sharp contrast between God atitude toward pagan fertility god worship and his attitude toward sexual freedom he gave all creation at creation.

God clearly wanted people to have a lot more sex then they do.
God wanted and wants all people to be NUDIST. Especially all NEW CREATION CHRISTIANS.

What if all people on earth were all nudist , do you think people would have more sex or have less sexual enjoyment. I think there would be a lot more sex in the world. Don’t you.

Satan wants the opposite of God.

Why do religious people follow evil Adam and Eve and wear man made clothes. Should they follow and obey God who wants all creation to be all nudist.


#8

You say “There is most definitely a big difference between nudity and pornography.

God put 100% of creation here 100% nude. God wants all creation to be 100% nude. Especially NEW CREATION Christians.

In the past some churches would be Baptist in the NUDE, as a symbol of become a NEW CREATION in Christ, Just like Adam and Eve were NUDE, NEW CREATION in Christ. I agree with that, All Christians should be nudist to symbolize that we are NEW CREATION in Christ to the whole world. God looks at us as sinless Adam and Eve before they sinned.

NEW CREATION Christians are PURE, but non-Christians are: " but even their mind and conscience is defiled."

Why are so many religious leaders acting like they are NOT, NEW CREATION Christians thinking with defiled and unbelieving minds and minds and conscience are defiled.

Tit 1:15 Unto the pure all things are pure : but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure ; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

2Co 5:17 - Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation ; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.

Romans 7:4 (GW) In the same way, brothers and sisters, you have died to the laws in Moses’ Teachings through Christ’s body. You belong to someone else, the one who was brought back to life. As a result, we can do what God wants.

Ro 13:9 For the commandments against adultery and murder and stealing and coveting – and any other commandment are all summed up in this one commandment: "Love your neighbor as yourself."

**Jas 2:12 So whenever you speak, or whatever you do, remember that you will be judged by the law of love, the law that set you free.

Pornography

There is good porn and bad porn

Good porn is loving, bad porn is very unloving.

But the super bad porn in Bible days was very bad, because it was photos and images of the Baal pagan fertility god used to worship their pagan fertility god.

Christians today are NOT worshipping any pagan fertility god like they did in the Bible days.

Mostly they just are enjoying God’s nude sexual human design, God’s created loving human nature, which God created and said was excellent. Gen 1:31 Nothing wrong in enjoying being nude and joining a NUDIST community.

http://inkaboutit4u.com/?p=Naked_15_Top_Reasons_to_Be_Naked

Nothing wrong with enjoying loving sexy nude photos or movie seeing others enjoying God designed loving sexual enjoyment between other loving humans.

http://inkaboutit4u.com/?p=Pornography_What_it_is_and_What_it_is_NOT

http://inkaboutit4u.com/?p=Porn_Christian_Porn_Stars

http://inkaboutit4u.com/?p=Porn_Not_for_Rapists

God designed Human sexuality a said it is excellent.

Religious leader greatly contradict God every time they bad mouth God’s created loving human sexual enjoyment. (especially when it clearly is NOT in any connection with the Bible times worship of a pagan fertility god worshipping this pagan god as the creator of sex and reproductivity when the Creator Jehovah God created all things, including loving sexual pleasure.

A whole book in the Bible, greatly praise sexual enjoyment and lot of nude sexual play with lot of NUDE dating on her bed and describing them in detail for all to read and enjoy. But they clearly were NOT married in SOS, (SOS 8:10) but lot of nude sex play between a married man Solomon with 140 wives and concubine SOS 6:8 having nude sex play with a single girl who already has another boyfriend. God put that sexy book in the Bible for all of to enjoy.

http://inkaboutit4u.com/?p=Bible_Song_Of_Solomon_They_Were_NOT_Married


#9

60,000,000 - Sixty million or so human beings DEAD by abortion since Roe v. Wade.
How many of those precious lives were created by Recreational Sex? And then destroyed because the fruit of the RS was a burden in some manner.

We don’t need to be lectured about nudity, freedom of sexual expression etc - we’ve got so much of that already we are inundated in it; and a partial result is that we’ve killed two generations of people. Slaughter of the innocents so that we have freedom to ‘get off’.
So now we would be BETTER off if we could just get church people to drop their mis-understandings and add to the dismal chaos of unfettered lust and sexuality?
Friend, you are making no sense. That little red guy on your shoulder, whispering in your ear, needs to be dispossessed.


#10

Yes but what drove the many young ladies to partake in the said destruction, and we have to ask why, oh why?

Maybe we are part of the problem … Or maybe God has it planned this way.

It seems to me, once we rid ourselves of clerical (church) definitions of morality, that humans are doing an okay job of muddling through this thing called life. The harsh realities of choices in life will undoubtedly (hopefully) teach mothers that there is value in their offspring. And that if we really believe in a Spirit from God, we have to have a reliance that God is working for a better humanity.


#11

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I am totally against abortion. Again this abortion is full of lies.

Roe vs Wade was totally bases on a lie. They told the court that Baby inside was really not a total baby but mostly just a piece of flesh and that it is not truly alive, until birth, when it really to breath, like in Gen where God breath into Adam and he became a living human. So you see all the lies.

College girls who are enjoy their sexual freedom are more prepare to enjoy sex without having any abortions.

High schools girls are very much NOT prepared and get cause up in a loving sexual situation and are NOT on birth control and do NOT have condones and may end up getting pregnant and many times a male (father or boyfriend) makes the girl get an abortion. The abortion people tell her that it is not real a baby only a lifeless piece of flesh. Again lots of lies.

At any given time there are over 2 million people who would love to adopt the baby. NO need for any abortion at all.

A big problem is alcohol and drugs. Guy will use alcohol and drugs to help them seduce a girl to get her. to have sex with them.

In the Bible Israelite Jewish girls girls would be quick to have oral sex and anal sex to avoid vaginal sex. Because in the OT day the father would sell their daughters as a virgin to make a lot of money.

In SOS a single girl had lots of nude sex play on her bed in her house with married man Solomon with lots of oral sex and more and likely anal sex but NO vaginal sex because at. the end of SOS she still is a virgin SOS 8:10

Today we have birth control pills, and condones and birth control implants that last 5 years.

Why not give girls a 5 year implant when they may desire to be sexual active or may at risk of being sexual active.

All this anti-sex religious talk does not help. These Anti-sexual lies do cause problems and give many people major shame and guilt trips their whole lives and cause them to go under cover and keep secret boyfriend or secret sexual activity in hiding and in back seats of dark cars. Also many leave the Church when they discover their sexual pleasures and sexual enjoyment.


#12

You make some good points. I think I did as well. :slight_smile:


#13

I see Professor Stink About-it is back. i hope I’m typing, that Avatar name right!

But I need statistics. Like Tom Cruise, in the sports movie…where the major player yells:

Show me the money!

I yell

Show me the statistics!

Otherwise, it’s just a personal opinion - without substance!

Much like most - if NOT all - the statements you made via this thread.

Or as Shakespeare would say:

Much Ado About Nothing.

And I do know a “little bit” about statistics. After all, I was a black belt in statistical methodology at Motorola. And helped electrical and mechanical engineers there - with their projects.

Just as Direct Response copywriters, know a “little bit” about persuasion and “selling” stuff. I know a “little bit” about that also.

Then, of course…we have statements from the Old Testament…are they STILL applicable, in the New Testament era?

It reminds me of watching old TV westerns - like Gun Smoke. Or even Pulp Fiction. Where the bad guy is murdering people. And saying stuff like:

An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.

And one can argue, like the Gun Smoke and Pulp Fiction killers…that the OT violence stuff…is just as relevant now, as the OT sex stuff.


#14

Paul doesn’t even mention pagan fertility god worship in that passage, let alone define “fornication” as having anything to do with pagan fertility god worship.


#15

inkaboutit, Where I live, it gets pretty darn cold, and it would not be very practical to be walking around in the nude. Sorry, but I’ keeping my clothes on. I don’t want to freeze to death.


#16

Well, I was wondering which thread here…I should share the latest wisdom, from the Sunil Bali blog…by George, I think I found the answer! You put the jokes, in a joke thread! :wink:

  • I’ve just found out my uncle has left me a stately home in his will. I have no idea where Sod Hall is. I’m just off to google it.

  • To be honest, the only reason my wife and I are together is the children. Neither of us wanted custody.

  • Henry the 8th’s second wife Anne Boleyn had a brother… his name was Tenpin.

  • I just found out that I passed my drugs test. My dealer has some explaining to do.

  • II decided not to eat the poultry in case it wasn’t fresh - chicken doubt.

Say? Does this sign apply, ONLY to the workplace? Or does it apply, to thread posters here also?

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#17

:smile:


#18

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http://inkaboutit4u.com/?p=Fornication_in_Corinth_Fertility_god

To understand the context and truth you need to do some addition research.

Compare 1 Cor 10:8 to Nu 25:1-9 Nu 31

Balaam , Balac, Baal, Baal worship as we clearly see in Nu 25:1-9, 1 Cor 10:8, include worship to this pagan fertility god which include sex orgies to worship this pagan fertility god so they get the promise of good farm crops. Some of the girls would give Human Baby Sacrifice to this pagan fertility god which is one of the god in the Baal worship.

Paul define this to be fornication. 1 Cor 10:8 the description of fornication is found in Nu 25: 1-8 which is major part of Baal worship.

They would use sex to trick the people to join them in worshipping Baal.

Numbers 25:18 NLT

because they assaulted you with deceit by tricking you into worshiping Baal of Peor, and because of Cozbi, the daughter of a Midianite leader, who was killed on the day of the plague at Peor."

**Deuteronomy 4:3 **

You saw what the LORD did to you at al-peor, where the LORD your God destroyed everyone who had worshiped the god Baal of Peor.

Numbers 25:3 NLT

Before long Israel was joining in the worship of Baal of Peor, causing the LORD’s anger to blaze against his people.

Numbers 25:5 NLT

So Moses ordered Israel’s judges to execute everyone who had joined in worshiping Baal of Peor.

Numbers 25:18 NLT

because they assaulted you with deceit by tricking you into worshiping Baal of Peor, and because of Cozbi, the daughter of a Midianite leader, who was killed on the day of the plague at Peor."

Judges 2:11 NLT

Then the Israelites did what was evil in the LORD’s sight and worshiped the images of Baal.

Judges 2:13 NLT

They abandoned the LORD to serve Baal and the images of Ashtoreth.

· Judges 3:7 NLT

The Israelites did what was evil in the LORD’s sight. They forgot about the LORD their God, and they worshiped the images of Baal and the Asherah poles.

· Judges 6:25 NLT

That night the LORD said to Gideon, "Take the second best bull from your father’s herd, the one that is seven years old. Pull down your father’s altar to Baal, and cut down the Asherah pole standing beside it.

· Judges 6:28 NLT

Early the next morning, as the people of the town began to stir, someone discovered that the altar of Baal had been knocked down and that the Asherah pole beside it was gone. In their place a new altar had been built, and it had the remains of a sacrifice on it.

· Judges 6:30 NLT

“Bring out your son,” they shouted to Joash . "He must die for destroying the altar of Baal and for cutting down the Asherah pole."

· Judges 6:31 NLT

But Joash shouted to the mob , "Why are you defending Baal? Will you argue his case? Whoever pleads his case will be put to death by morning! If Baal truly is a god, let him defend himself and destroy the one who knocked down his altar!"

· Judges 6:32 NLT

From then on Gideon was called Jerubbaal, which means “Let Baal defend himself,” because he knocked down Baal’s altar.

· Judges 8:33 NLT

As soon as Gideon was dead, the Israelites prostituted themselves by worshiping the images of Baal, making Baal-berith their god .

· Judges 9:4 NLT

They gave him seventy silver coins from the temple of Baal-berith, which he used to hire some soldiers who agreed to follow him.

· Judges 9:46 NLT

When the people who lived in the tower of Shechem heard what had happened, they took refuge within the walls of the temple of Baal-berith.

· Judges 10:6 NLT

Again the Israelites did evil in the LORD’s sight. They worshiped images of Baal and Ashtoreth, and the gods of Aram, Sidon, Moab, Ammon, and Philistia. Not only this, but they abandoned the LORD and no longer served him at all.

· Judges 10:10 NLT

Finally, they cried out to the LORD, saying, "We have sinned against you because we have abandoned you as our God and have served the images of Baal."

· 1 Samuel 7:4 NLT

So the Israelites destroyed their images of Baal and Ashtoreth and worshiped only the LORD.

· 1 Samuel 12:10 NLT

"Then they cried to the LORD again and confessed, ’ We have sinned by turning away from the LORD and worshiping the images of Baal and Ashtoreth. But we will worship you and you alone if you will rescue us from our enemies.’

· 1 Kings 16:31 NLT

And as though it were not enough to live like Jeroboam, he married Jezebel, the daughter of King Ethbaal of the Sidonians, and he began to worship Baal.

· 1 Kings 16:32 NLT

First he built a temple and an altar for Baal in Samaria.

· 1 Kings 18:18 NLT

“I have made no trouble for Israel,” Elijah replied. "You and your family are the troublemakers, for you have refused to obey the commands of the LORD and have worshiped the images of Baal instead.

· 1 Kings 18:19 NLT

Now bring all the people of Israel to Mount Carmel, with all 450 prophets of Baal and the 400 prophets of Asherah, who are supported by Jezebel."

· 1 Kings 18:21 NLT

Then Elijah stood in front of them and said, “How long are you going to waver between two opinions? If the LORD is God, follow him! But if Baal is God, then follow him!” But the people were completely silent.

· 1 Kings 18:22 NLT

Then Elijah said to them, "I am the only prophet of the LORD who is left, but Baal has 450 prophets.

· 1 Kings 18:23 NLT

Now bring two bulls. The prophets of Baal may choose whichever one they wish and cut it into pieces and lay it on the wood of their altar, but without setting fire to it. I will prepare the other bull and lay it on the wood on the altar, but not set fire to it.

· 1 Kings 18:25 NLT

Then Elijah said to the prophets of Baal, “You go first, for there are many of you. Choose one of the bulls and prepare it and call on the name of your god. But do not set fire to the wood.”

· 1 Kings 18:26 NLT

So they prepared one of the bulls and placed it on the altar. Then they called on the name of Baal all morning, shouting, “O Baal, answer us!” But there was no reply of any kind. Then they danced wildly around the altar they had made.

· 1 Kings 18:40 NLT

Then Elijah commanded, “Seize all the prophets of Baal. Don’t let a single one escape!” So the people seized them all, and Elijah took them down to the Kishon Valley and killed them there.

· 1 Kings 19:1 NLT

When Ahab got home, he told Jezebel what Elijah had done and that he had slaughtered the prophets of Baal.

· 1 Kings 19:18 NLT

Yet I will preserve seven thousand others in Israel who have never bowed to Baal or kissed him!"

· 1 Kings 22:53 NLT

He served Baal and worshiped him, arousing the anger of the LORD , the God of Israel, just as his father had done.

· 2 Kings 1:2 NLT

One day Israel’s new king, Ahaziah, fell through the latticework of an upper room at his palace in Samaria, and he was seriously injured. So he sent messengers to the temple of Baal-zebub, the god of Ekron, to ask whether he would recover.

· 2 Kings 1:3 NLT

But the angel of the LORD told Elijah, who was from Tishbe, "Go and meet the messengers of the king of Samaria and ask them, 'Why are you going to Baal-zebub, the god of Ekron, to ask whether the king will get well? Is there no God in Israel?

· 2 Kings 1:6 NLT

They replied, "A man came up to us and said, 'Go back to the king and give him this message from the LORD: Why are you sending men to Baal-zebub, the god of Ekron , to ask whether you will get well? Is there no God in Israel? Now, since you have done this, you will never leave the bed on which you are lying, but you will surely die.’"

· 2 Kings 1:16 NLT

And Elijah said to the king, "This is what the LORD says: Why did you send messengers to Baal-zebub, the god of Ekron, to ask whether you will get well? Is there no God in Israel? Now, since you have done this, you will never leave the bed on which you are lying, but you will surely die."

· 2 Kings 3:2 NLT

He did what was evil in the LORD’s sight, but he was not as wicked as his father and mother. He at least tore down the sacred pillar of Baal that his father had set up .

· 2 Kings 4:42 NLT

One day a man from Baal-shalishah brought the man of God a sack of fresh grain and twenty loaves of barley bread made from the first grain of his harvest. Elisha said, “Give it to the group of prophets so they can eat.”

· 2 Kings 10:18 NLT

Then Jehu called a meeting of all the people of the city and said to them, "Ahab hardly worshiped Baal at all compared to the way I will worship him!

· 2 Kings 10:19 NLT

Summon all the prophets and worshipers of Baal, and call together all his priests. See to it that every one of them comes, for I am going to offer a great sacrifice to Baal. Any of Baal’s worshipers who fail to come will be put to death." But Jehu’s plan was to destroy all the worshipers of Baal.

· 2 Kings 10:20 NLT

Then Jehu ordered, “Prepare a solemn assembly to worship Baal!” So they did.

· 2 Kings 10:21 NLT

He sent messengers throughout all Israel summoning those who worshiped Baal. They all came and filled the temple of Baal from one end to the other.

· 2 Kings 10:22 NLT

And Jehu instructed the keeper of the wardrobe, “Be sure that every worshiper of Baal wears one of these robes.” So robes were given to them.

· 2 Kings 10:23 NLT

Then Jehu went into the temple of Baal with Jehonadab son of Recab. Jehu said to the worshipers of Baal, “Make sure that only those who worship Baal are here . Don’t let anyone in who worships the LORD!”

· 2 Kings 10:25 NLT

As soon as Jehu had finished sacrificing the burnt offering, he commanded his guards and officers, “Go in and kill all of them. Don’t let a single one escape!” So they killed them all with their swords, and the guards and officers dragged their bodies outside. Then Jehu’s men went into the fortress of the temple of Baal.

· 2 Kings 10:26 NLT

They dragged out the sacred pillar used in the worship of Baal and destroyed it.

· 2 Kings 10:27 NLT

They broke down the sacred pillar of Baal and wrecked the temple of Baal , converting it into a public toilet. That is what it is used for to this day.

· 2 Kings 10:28 NLT

Thus, Jehu destroyed every trace of Baal worship from Israel.

· 2 Kings 11:18 NLT

And all the people of the land went over to the temple of Baal and tore it down. They demolished the altars and smashed the idols to pieces, and they killed Mattan the priest of Baal i n front of the altars.Jehoiada the priest stationed guards at the Temple of the LORD.

· 2 Kings 17:16 NLT

They defied all the commands of the LORD their God and made two calves from metal. They set up an Asherah pole and worshiped Baal and all the forces of heaven.

· 2 Kings 21:3 NLT

He rebuilt the pagan shrines his father, Hezekiah, had destroyed. He constructed altars for Baal and set up an Asherah pole , just as King Ahab of Israel had done. He also bowed before all the forces of heaven and worshiped them.

· 2 Kings 23:4 NLT

Then the king instructed Hilkiah the high priest and the leading priests and the Temple gatekeepers to remove from the LORD’s Temple all the utensils that were used to worship Baal, Asherah, and all the forces of heaven. The king had all these things burned outside Jerusalem on the terraces of the Kidron Valley, and he carried the ashes away to Bethel.

· 2 Kings 23:5 NLT

He did away with the pagan priests, who had been appointed by the previous kings of Judah, for they had burned incense at the pagan shrines throughout Judah and even in the vicinity of Jerusalem. They had also offered incense to Baal , and to the sun, the moon, the constellations, and to all the forces of heaven.

· 2 Chronicles 17:3 NLT

The LORD was with Jehoshaphat because he followed the example of his father’s early years and did not worship the images of Baal.

· 2 Chronicles 23:17 NLT

And all the people went over to the temple of Baal and tore it down. They demolished the altars and smashed the idols, and they killed Mattan the priest of Baa l in front of the altars.

· 2 Chronicles 24:7 NLT

Over the years, the followers of wicked Athaliah had broken into the Temple of God, and they had used all the dedicated things from the Temple of the LORD to worship the images of Baal.

· 2 Chronicles 28:2 NLT

Instead, he followed the example of the kings of Israel and cast images for the worship of Baal.

· 2 Chronicles 33:3 NLT

He rebuilt the pagan shrines his father Hezekiah had destroyed. He constructed altars for the images of Baal and set up Asherah poles. He also bowed before all the stars of heaven and worshiped them.

· 2 Chronicles 34:4 NLT

He saw to it that the altars for the images of Baal and their incense altars were torn down. He also made sure that the Asherah poles, the carved idols, and the cast images were smashed and scattered over the graves of those who had sacrificed to them .

· Psalm 106:28 NLT

Then our ancestors joined in the worship of Baal at Peor; they even ate sacrifices offered to the dead!

· Song of Solomon 8:11 NLT

"Solomon has a vineyard at Baal-hamon, which he rents to some farmers there. Each of them pays one thousand pieces of silver for its use.

· Jeremiah 2:8 NLT

The priests did not ask, ‘Where is the LORD?’ The judges ignored me, the rulers turned against me, and the prophets spoke in the name of Baal, wasting their time on nonsense.

· Jeremiah 2:23 NLT

"You say, 'That’s not true! We haven’t worshiped the images of Baal!’ But how can you say that? Go and look in any valley in the land! Face the awful sins you have done. You are like a restless female camel, desperate for a male!

· Jeremiah 7:9 NLT

Do you really think you can steal, murder, commit adultery, lie, and worship Baal and all those other new gods of yours,

· Jeremiah 9:14 NLT

Instead, they have stubbornly followed their own desires and worshiped the images of Baal, as their ancestors taught them.

· Jeremiah 11:13 NLT

Look now, people of Judah, you have as many gods as there are cities and towns . Your altars of shame – altars for burning incense to your god Baal – are along every street in Jerusalem.

· Jeremiah 11:17 NLT

I, the LORD Almighty, who planted this olive tree, have ordered it destroyed. For the people of Israel and Judah have done evil, provoking my anger by offering incense to Baal."

· Jeremiah 12:16 NLT

And if these nations quickly learn the ways of my people, and if they learn to swear by my name, saying, ‘As surely as the LORD lives’ (just as they taught my people to swear by the name of Baal), then they will be given a place among my people.

· Jeremiah 19:5 NLT

They have built pagan shrines to Baal, and there they burn their sons as sacrifices to Baal. I have never commanded such a horrible deed; it never even crossed my mind to command such a thing!

· Jeremiah 23:13 NLT

"I saw that the prophets of Samaria were terribly evil, for they prophesied by Baal and led my people of Israel into sin.

· Jeremiah 23:27 NLT

By telling these false dreams, they are trying to get my people to forget me, just as their ancestors did by worshiping the idols of Baal.

· Jeremiah 32:29 NLT

The Babylonians outside the walls will come in and set fire to the city. They will burn down all these houses, where the people caused my fury to rise by offering incense to Baal on the rooftops and by pouring out drink offerings to other gods.

· Jeremiah 32:35 NLT

They have built pagan shrines to Baal in the valley of the son of Hinnom, and there they sacrifice their sons and daughters to Molech. I have never commanded such a horrible deed; it never even crossed my mind to command such a thing. What an incredible evil, causing Judah to sin so greatly!

· Ezekiel 25:9 NLT

I will open up their eastern flank and wipe out their glorious frontier cities – Beth-jeshimoth, Baal-meon, and Kiriathaim.

· Hosea 2:8 NLT

She doesn’t realize that it was I who gave her everything she has – the grain, the wine, the olive oil. Even the gold and silver she used in worshiping the god Baal were gifts from me!

· Hosea 2:13 NLT

I will punish her for all the times she deserted me, when she burned incense to her images of Baal, put on her earrings and jewels, and went out looking for her lovers," says the LORD.

· Hosea 2:17 NLT

O Israel, I will cause you to forget your images of Baal; even their names will no longer be spoken.

· Hosea 9:10 NLT

The LORD says, "O Israel, when I first found you, it was like finding fresh grapes in the desert! When I saw your ancestors, it was like seeing the first ripe figs of the season! But then they deserted me for Baal-peor, giving themselves to that shameful idol. Soon they became as vile as the god they worshiped.

· Hosea 11:2 NLT

But the more I called to him, the more he rebelled, offering sacrifices to the images of Baal and burning incense to idols.

· Hosea 13:1 NLT

In the past when the tribe of Ephraim spoke, the people shook with fear because the other Israelite tribes looked up to them. But the people of Ephraim sinned by worshiping Baal and thus sealed their destruction .

· Zephaniah 1:4 NLT

"I will crush Judah and Jerusalem with my fist and destroy every last trace of their Baal worship . I will put an end to all the idolatrous priests, so that even the memory of them will disappear.

· Romans 11:4 NLT

And do you remember God’s reply? He said, "You are not the only one left. I have seven thousand others who have never bowed down to Baal!"

· 2 Peter 2:15 NLT

They have wandered off the right road and followed the way of Balaam son of Beor, who loved to earn money by doing wrong.

· 2 Peter 2:16 NLT

But Balaam was stopped from his mad course when his donkey rebuked him with a human voice.

· Jude 1:11 NLT

How terrible it will be for them! For they follow the evil example of Cain, who killed his brother. Like Balaam, they will do anything for money . And like Korah, they will perish because of their rebellion.

· Revelation 2:14 NLT

And yet I have a few complaints against you. You tolerate some among you who are like Balaam, who showed Balak how to trip up the people of Israel. He taught them to worship idols by eating food offered to idols and by committing sexual sin.

Nu 25: 1-9

Re 2:14 - ( these people where idol worshippers .)

But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam , who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of

Israel , to eat things sacrificed unto idols , and to commit fornication.

1Co 10:8 - Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand. ( these people where idol worshippers .)

God designed sexuality and said it was very good. What is bad is using your body sexuality to worship other gods and having sex with women who are worshipping idols and other deities… This make God very angry.

Compare, 1 Cor 10:8 to Numbers 25:1-9 This is what Paul was refering to.

1 Cor. 10:8Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand .

Numbers 25:9And those that died in the plague were twenty and four thousand

25:1And Israel abode in Shittim, and the people began to commit whoredom with the daughters of Moab.

25:2And they called the people unto the sacrifices of their gods : and the people did eat, and bowed down to their gods.

25: 3And Israel joined himself unto Baalpeor: and the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel.

25:9And those that died in the plague were twenty and four thousand .

Re 2:20 - Context ( these people where idol worshippers .)

Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols .


#19

I see Professor Stink About-It is back. And he’s trying to “sell” us… some sexual, Biblical snake oil.

He never answered, my questions about zombies and sex. And if he thinks, this female zombie is sexy or not! I think she’s hot. Maybe I shouldn’t have admitted that!


#20

Must be an inner beauty…