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How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Here’s the story.
https://amgreatness.com/2019/09/28/the-press-gang-that-couldnt-keep-its-story-straight/

Looking forward to Warren stories as she posed as a Cherokee for years fraudulently as a Professor & even contributed recipes to a book called “Pow Wow Chow” again as a Cherokee & plaguerized these recipes, and there is more!

So these self righteous Dems will be protected by the MSM as much as possible but it will be an issue for them, whether Biden or Warren.

I’m found an excellent newscaster, who has great commentary…on the up-and-coming impeachment inquiry and all the other world problems! :crazy_face:

Where did I say that I’m absent of bias’? I repeatedly have stated my “biases” explicitly
(as in, "My bias is ‘such and such’ ").

Dave said that he was not saying that “crazies” were only on one side. You responded that you disagreed with this. So I responded that this seems to make Dave less partisan. If you think that’s untrue, you’re welcome to explain why.

I know that. But that’s exactly what those on the other extreme say about Trump.
Again, my impression is that such assertions and reasoning show more about the similarity
of the two sides than it does about their claims to distinctive righteous outrage.

I missed it Bob, can you tell me your biases?

Sorry but you are off base. I don’t even like Trump much less worship him. I think he is a bully,i think he thinks superficially , impulsive, to black and white plus he has a huge ego.

But i love (not worship) Capitalism and he is the only candidate who is a Capitalist.The Dem candidates are either Socialists or moving right to the edge of it and i despise Socialism. But this is not my religion & if Warren becomes President i’ll accept it and live my life. After all Jesus said his kingdom is not of this world.

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On my own biases, I delineated 1000’s in these pages, most of them on theological and moral issues. But in the current political personalities realm, your take above would accurately reflect much of the bias that I myself expressed about central concerns.

You do express your perceptions of Mr. Trump’s character a bit stronger than I have. I’d add, that while I’ve come to expect all politicians to spin the truth, I’ve indicated my bias is that Trump excels in a salesman’s abilities to effectively spin stories to secure his own interests.

I think this quote, is most applicable here. :crazy_face:

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Our job is to see through the spin and get to the truth. That’s all that matters in the end.
Any Republican could have done the despicable things Biden did. Of course. I’m not naive. The fact is that Biden did do it, and it won’t be investigated - much- because the shiny new and completely false impeachment against Trump will take our attention. And all this to hide the incoming Horowitz report, that won’t be covered either most likely, except by the two or three conservative outlets.
I’m amazed anyone falls for it.

“I can vote, but my thoughtful vote counts for next-to-nothing in most elections, especially when it is cancelled out by the vote of some thoughtless and uninformed idiot.” -BV
(Present company excluded)

lol, that’s exactly the anguished sentiment that seems to animate all of my crazy Leftist friends.

Biden will get in line behind Hillary receiving 140 million in “donations” to the Clinton Charitable Fund" for which donations dried up after she lost the election!! Quid pro quo? Pay for Play? So blatant but Dems never get investigated, they only do the investigating!

Assuming elections even matter anymore? Remains to be seen?

It can feel useless, but I like the direction you’re going!

BTW Bob, one of your friends from the AOC Squad , Rashida Talib is selling teeshirts reading “Impeach the MF” , should I order you one?? I’ll be glad to , seriously!

BTW the reason we were sending hundreds of millions to Ukraine was??? Oh so we could pay Hunter Biden’s salary!

Steve, I’m glad you see yourself as addressing my arguments so “seriously.”
Though you may need to spend less hours watching FOX :slight_smile:
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Well I was thinking you could wear the teeshirt while Pastoring your flock! Can I get an Amen brother!

Noone here, American or foreign, thought to criticize these things listed below. BuT If any one of these was made against Obama, you (generic ‘you’) would have stood up for your hero. But now the frenzy to impeach a president THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ELECTED means that you will not stand up to the people, the leaders, that say these vile things. Why is that? If decency and truth is that precious, why not call it out on both sides?
Long-time Congressional Black Caucus member Maxine Waters followed: “If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them, and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere,” she told a crowd in Los Angeles. This is something close to proto-civil war. It can be seen as not merely incitement to harassment but, for the mentally unstable, to assassination. Coming from the mouth of a legislator, it must be a record in contempt for representative democracy, civic order and ordinary decency.

Then there’s the case of the President’s press secretary, Sarah Sanders, who was asked to leave a restaurant in Lexington, Virginia, where she was having dinner, for no other reason than that she worked for Trump. Restaurant owner Stephanie Wilkerson, apparently confusing herself with Martin Luther or a moral hero like Claus von Stauffenberg, said she asked Sanders to depart because “there are moments in time when people need to live their convictions. This appeared to be one.”

“But,” Parker asked, “what exactly are the ‘convictions’ that Wilkerson was living in this incident? That you refuse to talk, associate, do business with anyone you disagree with? This is America?”

Peter Fonda tweeted: “We should rip Barron Trump from his mother’s arms and put him in a cage with paedophiles. And see if mother will stand up against the giant ahole she is married to. 90 million people in the streets on the same weekend in the country. Fk.”

Our own (this is an Australian site) Robert Manne states charmingly:

arguably [Trump] has the foulest attitudes or the vilest character of any president in US history. If his presidency will eventually come to be regarded as illegitimate it will be because sufficient American people are convinced that he won his office in part because of his unlawful collusion with a hostile foreign power.

John Brennan, an alleged former communist whom Obama made head of the CIA, tweeted from somewhere beyond paranoia:

Donald Trump’s press conference performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of “high crimes & misdemeanors.” It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trump’s comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???

He was referring to a conventional and necessary meeting between world leaders which, if Obama had undertaken it, would have been hailed as an act of statesmanship and peace-making, but whose agenda and details he was not in any case privy to.

These and many more examples from an essay in Quadrant Online, an Australian clear-thinking magazine. I recommend it.
https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2018/09/trump-derangement-syndrome-spreads-intensifies/

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I like the words of a fictional TV detective - Monk. When he solves a case, he says two things:

Here’s how it happened

and

Here’s the thing

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Well, ask this question. If Trump was a Democratic president and this S5&T surfaced on him, what would the Republican party do?

It would do the same thing, folks.

Now, is Trump guilty? Not yet! He’s innocent until proven guilty. Which is embedded in our constitution? Yes. So let the process unfold and see what happens.

Now on the topic of guns, from another thread. I support the second amendment and the right to bear arms. But I side with the Democrats, in asking for comprehensive background checks. And folks don’t need AK-47s, to go duck hunting!

But it the zombies from Z-Hell (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9), arrive during my lifetime…I’m going to shoot them!

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