I think Donald Trump is one of the greatest President this country has ever had.
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I personally donât see it. But my best bud, sees it this way. I think the reason they think this and they have a point, is that DT does not pull any punches and speaks his mind. It is refreshing to see someone authentic and resilient. From this I agree. I admire these traits. He is not swayed. But⌠That isnât enough for me to think he is a good president. He has good qualities, but I did not vote for him, and I wonât again next election. Still, I donât hate him, call him names and make fun of him.
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This particular thread, is like a zombie - it keeps getting resurrectionâŚjust not always, in an âidealâ form. 
What do you all think of Trumpâs tweet, over which there is such an uproar?
Here is the text of Trumpâs Tweet. Itâs not quite as bad as itâs been made out to be:
So interesting to see âProgressiveâ Democratic Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a completed and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere is the world (if they have a functioning government at all) now loudly and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why donât they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done. These places need your help badly, you canât leave fast enough. Iâm sure Nancy Pelosi would be happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements.
The problem I have with Trumpâs tweet is that three of the four Congresswomen didnât come from any foreign country. They were born in United States and thus, of course, are United States citizens. Even the fourth one is a U.S. citizen, though she came from Somalia.
I think Trump hopes to fan the flames of division in the Democratic Party. But I donât think his battle has to do with race or religion; his battle is about his conservatism vs. their liberalism.
I agree & i couldnât care less about personalities, because to me itâs about Capitalism vs Socialism. As for Trump i think he meant something like âwhy donât you spend a year in Venezuela and let us know how you like Socialism.â Of course he always finds a way to frame it in a way to allow the Dems to do what they do best, accuse someone of racism!
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Pelosi had been preserving a more moderate Democratic stance by sharply criticizing the four freshmen representatives. So laying groundwork for his 2020 election, I think the president brilliantly chose a classic racist trope to push Dems to defend and unite around these more extreme representatives, and solidify them as the face of the Democratic party.
His immigration agenda had stalled (heâd backed down on border tariffs and migrants kept coming; the supreme court blocked his census ploy; weekend raids had fizzled). And he knew that this kind of rhetorical attack would bolster and appeal to many in his crucial base. For he has decided to again bank on an âus vs. themâ political strategy, rather than the more traditional approach of moving toward appealing to those in the middle.
He is plenty smart to effectively know exactly how his language would be heard in various quarters. My perception is that he is getting exactly the fight that he intended to prompt.
I am not bothered by it. The word racist is quickly becoming an every day word now. I am numb to the accusations and word in general. Extreme left liberals and SJWs have destroyed the potency of the word and it no longer means anything besides âconform to my beliefs, or you are a baaaaaad personâ.
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I donât think it was a racist trope, but rather a patriotic/ nationalistic trope, Ă la âAmerica: love it or leave it!â
In retrospect, I totally agree with you that the president wanted to âpush Dems to defend and unite around these more extreme representatives, and solidify them as the face of the Democratic party.â
That view was also shared by Rush Limbaugh. See this short video clip, including a quote from Limbaugh, from Fox News yesterdayâ
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Hum! I wonder what the BBC news, has to say?
very well could be who would have thought we would end up with a real estate mogul / reality TV persona as president.
But I like Mr Trumps ways, going straight to the people he knows how to get it done, or in his way âget it saidâ. There is pomp and circumstance to this guy. He is what he is. Letâs shake the tree and see what falls. 
Seeing America as not already great,
or to be happier if changes were made
is not a reason to leave the country.
But for most children of color,
or recognizable as children of immigrants,
"Go Back" where you came from
is a painfully familiar taunt!
And I perceive Trump as world wise enough,
to be well aware of what that tweet would convey.
I agree, âHe is what he is.â
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Obviously he is classless but he is a Capitalist which is a contrast to the Dems. BTW the leftist Dems use name calling on a regular basis without ever being called out. They even in effect called Nancy Pelosi a racist . AOC is a complete imbecile yet she now has 3 followers which is astounding. They just yell at and accuse anyone who disagrees with them which is a an attribute of Marxism or any similar political belief. If these people actually controlled the govt our freedoms would be short lived.
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I agree, âHe is what he is.â
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I see the right and the left as I do Calvinists and Arminians⌠Both wrong and yet, both right. Yet completely unable to understand greater truths that could unify, much like Universalists do with the two sides.
Calling someone âracistâ which is a charged word and meant to intimidate is completely different then calling someone classless,imbecile or leftist. From my perspective leftist is a factual description as is classless & listening to AOC for one minute most impartial people would conclude she is a true imbecile if there ever was one.
I donât have a pattern of characterizing people a certain way but AOC & her squad do it as a normal method of communicating. In other words itâs a recurring pattern. If you disagree with them then by their definition, you must be racist.
We tend to project in a linear way which is how Climate Change is sold to the public but often history does not work out that way. I get the feeling God does change things for His own purposes.
I disagree about her intelligence, but thanks for only concluding Iâm a partial imbecile,
and not a racist 
Well according to their own definition that since they are women of âcolorâ if you disagree with them you are racist, so Bob whether you are a racist depends upon you agreeing with them! I thought i was a man of color but maybe the wrong color for today!
Like Trump did, you can suggest we Dems are racists if you want. But I donât hear any of us arguing that political disagreement means racism. You appear to argue that the rightâs name calling is o.k. because itâs âfactual,â for we with whom you differ politically clearly are leftist âimbecilesâ etc, but that what I said is not factual, but illicit because itâs âcompletely differentâ and a âcharged word.â
What I claimed is that minority citizens generally recognize as a familiar historically classic âracistâ trope the slogan, âgo back where you came from.â The reality of my experience is that I perceive this as at least as âfactualâ as your perception that we are âimbecilesâ etc.
My impression is that both the right and left now specialize in name calling and using charged words at the center of their political rhetoric, and that we have lost a decent middle that is willing to call out both sides on the coarsening of our rhetorical and political quests for power.
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