The Evangelical Universalist Forum

How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Practices Christian Living
#581

-While not manifesting itself yet in the United States in overt support of sexual enslavement of women, Sharia law is creeping into the United States. Islamic prayers are being held in some public schools, in clear violation of the First Amendment’s establishment clause that has been used to bar Judeo-Christian prayers in the public schools. And in a shocking preview of what may lie ahead for the influence of Sharia law in U.S. courts, a trial court judge in New Jersey refused to issue a restraining order against a Muslim husband who allegedly raped his wife. The trial judge accepted the plaintiff’s claim that the defendant had engaged in sexual relations with the plaintiff against her expressed wishes. However, the judge concluded that the husband lacked criminal intent in this case because “he was operating under his belief that it is, as the husband, his desire to have sex when and whether he wanted to, was something that was consistent with his practices and it was something that was not prohibited.” Fortunately, wiser heads prevailed in the case on appeal and the plaintiff was ultimately granted a restraining order, while the defendant husband was convicted of rape. However, the fact that a judge in the United States could for one moment even consider, let alone rule, that a defendant should be exempted from the operation of a statute intended to protect women against sexual abuse because of his Muslim beliefs is disturbing, to say the least. The tendency of some judges, including some Supreme Court justices, to look at foreign law for guidance in rendering their decisions adds to the concern.

-In an article entitled “ISIS Enshrines a Theology of Rape,” the New York Times reported on the religious sources ISIS fighters have used to justify their rapes of their female slaves. They believe that having sex with their infidel slaves, including with young girls, actually brings them closer to Allah. Indeed, they would pray before and after they raped their victims.

-ISIS is Sharia-compliant in the most literal sense. Its fighters are following the example of Muhammad himself, the warrior prophet of Islam who captured slaves in battle and had sex with them. As the prophet was entitled to take advantage of such fruits of battle according to the Koran, so ISIS believes its fighters are entitled as well. Thus, these savages thought nothing of burning 19 Yazidi girls to death in iron cages after the girls had the temerity to resist having sex with their captors. This atrocity was said by local activists to have taken place recently in the Iraqi city of Mosul, which has currently become a battlefield between ISIS fighters and anti-ISIS coalition forces. An eyewitness reported that the burnings took place in front of hundreds of people.

-http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/266978/isis-burns-19-yazidi-girls-death-cages-refusing-joseph-klein

#582

This article appeared in MSN today. I know some think MSN has bias. But the article raises a question - for me:

You’re Probably Going to Need Medicaid

So how, under the Trump plan (or your own)…if one in 3 seniors need nursing home care - at some point…and it costs 100 K per year…how can most seniors pay for it, if there is no Medicaid program?

#583

So how, under the Trump plan (or your own)…if one in 3 seniors need nursing home care - at some point…and it costs 100 K per year…how can most seniors pay for it, if there is no Medicaid program?

Where did you get the idea Medicaid is disappearing for seniors? The Medicaid being debated was the Obamacare coverage using Medicaid which increased the income threshold from 20K to 60K to qualify for anyone.

#584

Dang it, Steve, those facts just get in the way. :smiley:

#585

Well, Steve. There is talk that the Republicans, want to cut Medicaid - according to “reliable” news reports. I’m just following the Republican bandwagon, to its logical conclusion. :laughing:

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#586

It’s not as if there are or were millions of Americans that did not have health CARE. It’s the mandated health INSURANCE that is the big deal. I reckon.

#587

Well, Steve. There is talk that the Republicans, want to cut Medicaid - according to “reliable” news reports. I’m just following the Republican bandwagon, to its logical conclusion. :laughing:

That was just another leak by Comey!

#588

Let me return to the article appeared in MSN today. It’s really from the “conservative” New York Times. I know some think MSN and the New York Times haves bias. But the article raises a question - for me:

You’re Probably Going to Need Medicaid

Let me quote from it a bit:

So let me pose this question. Does the article have its facts straight? If not, then which facts are wrong?

As Yosemite Sam used to say:

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If I want a stronger response - to solve elderly memory problems…I could introduce this article, from Dark Web News: :wink:

Medical Cannabis May Help Improve Memory in Old Age

#590

That is sometimes true but, as I said, saying 20 million people don’t have mandated insurance is not the same as saying 20 million people cannot get some health care.

#591

The American Health Care Act that passed the House and is now being debated by the Senate would reduce spending on Medicaid by over $800 billion, the largest single reduction in a social insurance program in our nation’s history. The budget released by President Trump last month would up the ante by slashing another $600 billion over 10 years from the program. Whether the Senate adopts cuts of quite this magnitude or not, any legislation that passes the Republican Congress is likely to include the largest cuts to the Medicaid program since its inception.

Much focus has rightly been placed on the enormous damage this would do to lower-income families and youth. But what has been largely missing from public discussion is the radical implications that such cuts would have for older and disabled Americans.

So let me pose this question. Does the article have its facts straight? If not, then which facts are wrong?

The NY Times along with the Wash Post is a left wing rag and akin to the Natl Inquirer. There are no actual cuts in Medicaid , just a reduction in the rate of increase in a program that is out of control.

#592

+1

#594

Not a straw man argument, no - it was just intended to draw a distinction.

#595

If people show up at emergency rooms, then the hospital has to take them. Or risk a law suit, for wrongful death, etc. And if the hospital needs to write off the treatment costs, they have to raise their rates somewhere. Guess who ends up paying for it? We do.

And why is the cost of US hospital costs so high, when our countries have reasonable costs? Let’s look at the cost of MRI, from a 2010 article at huffingtonpost.com/d-brad-wright/the-price-of-diagnostic-i_b_361934.html:

Notice that the US cost is what we call, a statistical outlier.

Recently, I had a brain MRI done - at an independent facility, mind you. It only cost me $175, with a Medicare advantage plan. But the facility submitted a bill for $3000 and it’s an in-network facility. What would a hospital have charged?

Well, neither the neurologist, radiologist, ophthalmologist or the optometrist, could explain the pressure I feel - near my left eye. To be fair, neither can an oriental pulse diagnosis. So modern medicine has no explanation. And it’s left for me, to find a cure - by other means: Healing (Native, Homeopathy, Ayurveda / TCM, Spiritual).

It’s time to find a new anesthesiologist :exclamation: :laughing:

#596

Do we still think it is Islamaphobic to take a moment to rethink OUR immigration vetting?

From heatst.com/life/attendance-plum … -assaults/ ::

The amount of people who attended this year’s Oktoberfest—the world’s largest beer festival in Munich — dropped to its lowest level in 15 years amid growing fears about rampant rapes and other sex crimes often linked to Germany’s burgeoning migrant population.

Oktoberfest 2016 had around 5.6 million visitors, which is some 300,000 fewer than last year. However even with heightened security, the number of reported sex crimes increased to 31 cases, according to police reports.

The low turnout for Oktoberfest is also being partially blamed on the series of recent terror incidents to rock Western Europe, some of which have hit very close to home. In July, a German-Iranian student killed nine people in a Munich shopping mall and then turned the gun on himself. That same week, an Afghan migrant injured five people in an axe attack, and a failed asylum seeker blew himself up outside a music festival in Ansbach, Germany injuring 15 people.

Germany is one of Western Europe’s top destinations for asylum-seeking refugees. It alone accounted for one third of the refugees received last year. It is reported that there were 1.3 million migrants who arrived in Germany in 2015 and nearly half of them were young males.

There has been growing concern (and evidence) that Europe’s refugee crisis has led to an increase in crime, including mass sex assault.

In a recent case in Cologne during the 2016 New Year’s celebrations, 1200 women were assaulted. It took police days to report that the overwhelming majority of perpetrators were asylum-seeking men who’d recently arrived in Germany.

#597

From frontpagemag.com/fpm/267008/ … greenfield

The Democratic National Committee announced that Resistance Summer would begin in June. James Hodgkinson, a Bernie Sanders volunteer, delivered by opening fire on Republicans playing baseball.

Hodgkinson had spent the weeks before the shooting staring at the site of his future attack and working on his laptop. What was he doing on his laptop? Ranting about Trump and Republicans.

The left-wing terrorist who opened fire on Republicans practicing for a charity baseball game, an event to which they had brought their children, didn’t come up with his own ideas. His Facebook pages were dumpsters rotting with reposted left-wing hate. There was Bill Moyers’ Resistance plan along with Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Rachel Maddow, Robert Reich and Noam Chomsky.

They helped shape Hodgkinson’s conviction that Republicans had to be destroyed. Or as the title of a Facebook group that he belonged to put it, “Terminate the Republican Party.”

James Hodgkinson did his best in a Virginia park. And he wasn’t a lone lunatic. Not by a long shot.

After the attack, the office of Congresswoman Claudia Tenney (R-N.Y.) received an email reading “One down, 216 to go". Congressman Tom Garrett (R-Va.) needed security after receiving threats reading, “This is how we’re going to kill your wife”. Other threats described graphic atrocities against his daughters and even his dog.

#599

NYT:

(Anyone who thought that the left would show an ounce of decency after the GOP shootings was living in a very optimistic fantasy world. )

Here’s the New York Times’ editorial.

“…In 2011, when Jared Lee Loughner opened fire in a supermarket parking lot, grievously wounding Representative Gabby Giffords and killing six people, including a 9-year-old girl, the link to political incitement was clear. Before the shooting, Sarah Palin’s political action committee circulated a map of targeted electoral districts that put Ms. Giffords and 19 other Democrats under stylized cross hairs.”

FPM: "There was no excuse for this lie when it was first unveiled. In 2017, it’s a smear that shows that the media will shamelessly lie without scruples or any notion of ethics.

Loughner had no politics. The Times editorial board neglects to mention that he murdered a Republican judge. But that wouldn’t fit the agenda."

The Left has used this logic, now a righty used it. It turns out that Loughner had no politics, but was definitely handicapped by severe paranoia. We’ll have to wait and see if the recent shooting was connected and to what extent to the litany of hatred, vitriol, Rachel Maddow, Kathy Griffith, Conan and some calls to violence that the shooter had been reading.

#600

Not at all. I think both your country and mine should do all we can to screen immigrants in order to keep out terrorists and other killers, or people who would be likely to harm our people in some way.

What I do think would constitute Islamophobia would be make a law that would banish all Muslims from entering our countries. I can understand the mind set of those who would support such a law; it’s human nature to paint all people in an ethnic group with the same brush. During both world wars, some citizens of both our countries treated people of German descent badly. Just a personal example: one of my great uncles was a pastor of a church in United States. Because he had a German surname and took a non-resistant stance, it was falsely believed that he was a supporter of Germany during World War 1 and he was dismissed from his position as pastor.

Yeh… the fighting Irish, the tightwad Scotch, the lazy … the drunken…, etc. etc. etc. It’s human nature to generalize.

#601

And my Zombie friends, have been kicked out of places - too numerous to count. Sometimes, they have to go into hiding. :laughing:

#603

What I do think would constitute Islamophobia would be make a law that would banish all Muslims from entering our countries. I can understand the mind set of those who would support such a law; it’s human nature to paint all people in an ethnic group with the same brush

But it’s not about an ethnic group, it’s about people who claim they believe the Quran which commands them to institute Sharia and to forcibly convert unbelievers at the risk of death or subjugation. Early in the Quran Mohammad is reasonable but later on he becomes hostile to opposition and muslims regard his later teachings as prevalent.
So Paidion as an educated fellow who has seen a few things , seriously speaking i would be happy if you convince me that Islam is not really dangerous but it seems to me to be just that. So if that’s the case how can letting people in who believe this book, make sense to our children and grandchildren?

#604

"As for immigration, one point that needs to be made over and over in the teeth of retromingent leftist incomprehension is that** immigration is justified only if it benefits the host country. ** Trump understands this; Hillary and her ilk do not. This is another reason why his defeat of Hillary is cause for jubilation. No doubt it is good for Muslims that they be allowed to flood into Germany; but what the Germans need to ask is whether there is any net benefit to them of this in-flooding. And the same for every country.

This is just common sense, a commodity in short supply among lefties whom I call retromingents because of their tendency to piss on the past and its wisdom." - BV

"Under Islam there is no separation of mosque and state. This is one of the reasons why Islam is incompatible with the values of the West.

The threat of Islam in this regard is actually two-fold. There is the general threat to the separation of church/mosque/synagogue and state. And there is the more specific threat posed by Islam’s being the worst of the great religions. Suppose the USA were ruled by a Christian theocracy. That would not be good, but it would be far better than if it were ruled by a Muslim theocracy." - BV