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How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

You should be the “official” Trump tweeter, Dave. He could use the Twitter help :exclamation: :laughing:

Rest assured, Hillary and Obama are now living lives - as private citizens. And enjoying making money, by giving speeches and writing books. :laughing:

And all the world’s political cartoons, tabloids, etc., now turn their attention - to the man in charge (AKA Trumpenstein). :laughing:

By the way, this one comes from England:

They did not have to go into private life to make money, Randy. The American taxpayers and foreign governments made them uber-rich already.
Here’s some lighthearted fun for you, though.
I will continue being not pro-Trump, but pro-America, unlike perhaps the teacher in this skit.

As someone who has struggled with EGO myself I can relate to Trump. As it tells us in the A.A. Big Book, " Selfishness - self-centeredness! That, we think, is the root of our troubles. Driven by a hundred forms of fear, self-delusion, self-seeking, and self-pity, we step on the toes of our fellows and they retaliate. Sometimes they hurt us, seemingly without provocation, but we invariably find that at some time in the past we have made decisions based on self which later placed us in a position to be hurt.

Trump has publicly bragged about committing adultery.

Trump has mocked and disrespected women, the disabled, and even prisoners of war.

Trump has acted like a con artist (for example, Trump University).

Trump has acted like a demagogue, appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than rational arguments — notably in the debates.
Trump has acted like one who is shamelessly proud. He has boasted, “Nobody reads the Bible more than me.” Yet he said that he has never asked God or others to forgive him for anything.

“My main problem,” said Randy Alcorn, “is not that Donald Trump says what he thinks. . . . My problem is with what he actually thinks: especially his obsession with outward appearance, sexiness, superficiality, wealth, his own status and accomplishments, and his quickness to berate and insult people and seek revenge on his critics.”

Wayne Grudem, who finally advocated voting for Trump, wrote in October,

There is no morally good presidential candidate in this election. I previously called Donald Trump a “good candidate with flaws” and a “flawed candidate,” but I now regret that I did not more strongly condemn his moral character. I cannot commend Trump’s moral character, and I strongly urge him to withdraw from the election.

Now that he’s pres, why not pray for him and support him as he tries to undo the damage Obama did, and also tries to help the country? Is there a saint we should have nominated?
I personally do not know any human being that is not a sinner, who is not imperfect. Do you? We can judge Trump on what he does - what else can we do - judge his sinfulness? Who will cast that first stone??

Much easier just to poke fun.

Or argue like the liberal lady in the cartoon vid above.

You do realize (of course), that a whole lot of people, get paid to poke fun at folks (i.e. political cartoonists). And I do it here (for free), in honor of the Holy Fools tradition (just following the family religious tradition) :exclamation: :laughing:

Where were all the holy fools during the Obama desecration of the country?

I will start a counter-mockery here, starting today more or less, because mockery whether ‘well-intentioned’ or not, works. The Left has been using it forever, and meet measured arguments - well, like the vid above with the animated characters. Or like this:

“Republicans are waging a war on women! You can tell because they oppose killing female babies and think women should buy their own birth control, just like men! Also, they’re so mean to women! For example, they oppose Hillary Clinton becoming President – obviously because she’s a woman. All criticism of women from conservatives is based on gender. Not like criticism of that @%$#^ Sarah Palin, who is so incredibly, unbelievably stupid that she only managed to become a mayor, a governor, a VP candidate, put out best selling books, had a successful TV show and became a wealthy, sought-after speaker while getting married and having 5 kids. She’s almost as bad as those @#$%!$ – Michelle Malkin, S.E. Cupp, and Dana Loesch, although a little more evil than Ann Coulter and Megyn Kelly and more of a @#%@^$%^ #@$%^&(^ @#$%^ than Laura Ingraham and Jan Brewer! Also, conservatives call women names!”


Who would not be offended by this type of liberal “reasoning”?

“You can’t expect black people to get voter ID. I mean, white guys? Sure. Hispanics? No problem. Asians and Jews? Obviously. But, have you met any black people in your life? You really think they’re capable of going to a government office with the proper paperwork and coming out with identification with their name on it? These guys? Seriously? Seriously?”

Sure that’s a load of demeaning crap, but it was implicit in what the libs are currently saying. Suitable for mockery?



It seems to be a lopsided debate, Lib’s can do about anything and when finally Mr Trump (or anyone FTM) finally lashes a little satire back, wow, they cry, how can they do it? :astonished:

You can’t expect black people to get voter ID. I mean, white guys? Sure. Hispanics? No problem. Asians and Jews? Obviously. But, have you met any black people in your life? You really think they’re capable of going to a government office with the proper paperwork and coming out with identification with their name on it? These guys? Seriously? Seriously?"

In the world of Realty, liberals treat black folks like children in every way including trying to keep them on welfare to lock in the votes!

Here’s how it is in the real world

In the spirit of unity, I dug up the old philosopher. :laughing:

Well if Obama could blame Bush for 8 years, why aren’t we going to blame Obama for 8 years??? Why start with Trump the very day he was inaugurated?

If that guy in the cartoon is having trouble, it did not start with Trump, eh??

In the meantime, now wonder people hate Trump, saying stuff like:
"The Trump Administration is committed to reducing violent crime. In 2015, homicides increased by 17% in America’s fifty largest cities. That’s the largest increase in 25 years. In our nation’s capital, killings have risen by 50 percent. There were thousands of shootings in Chicago last year alone.

Our job is not to make life more comfortable for the rioter, the looter, or the violent disrupter. Our job is to make life more comfortable for parents who want their kids to be able to walk the streets safely. Or the senior citizen waiting for a bus. Or the young child walking home from school."

It’s really not anyone’s fault. After all, the snake tempted Eve…Eve tempted man with an apple. And it was downhill ever since.

It could have started with the fact that he is mentally damaged. The economy started getting bad under the trickle down economics of the Rep. Bush Administration. Trump has mocked the disabled.

It’s really not anyone’s fault. After all, the snake tempted Eve…Eve tempted man with an apple. And it was downhill ever since.

If only the Pilgrims never came here! We could have had a king and then socialism!

And as a pramatist, we now have the right person - to clean up the mess :exclamation: :laughing:

Hitler authorizes killing of disabled

Trump has mocked the disabled.

Proverbs 17:5 ~~ Whoever mocks the poor insults his Maker; he who is glad at calamity will not go unpunished.

Isaiah 28:22 ~~ Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth.

Jude 1:18 ~~ How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

Michael, I am NOT including you with these people. I like you, but not these folks so much :

But back to the charges against Trump: Is it asking too much for these people who are constantly attacking him to actually know what they are talking about? To be honest brokers of information? To be just a bit judicious? Quite clearly the only response has to be yes, it is too much. Because if they were to deal with the facts, their meme would collapse. The incident in question is Trump supposedly mocking New York Times reporter Serge Kovaleski, whose hand and arm movement on his right side is impaired due to arthrogryposis. Video from 2015 seems to indicate that Trump was indeed cruelly imitating the man. But the media are too lazy and those suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome are too nasty and small-minded to look deeper. The truth is, Trump has often used those same convulsive gestures to mimic the mannerisms of people, including himself, who are rattled and exasperated. Why couldn’t the mainstream media look this up? Gavin McInnes of and Taki’s Magazine did, and he has the video evidence to show that Trump has a history of flailing his arms to make a point. It isn’t something he reserved for Kovaleski. McInnes wasn’t alone — Catholics 4 Trump ably made the same case. So have others. If these people could do the research, why couldn’t the legacy media, with all its resources, do the same? And here’s another point: Why have we seen no images of Kovaleski moving the way Trump is moving? In every video and photograph of Kovaleski we’ve seen, he is calmly standing still with his right arm held firm against his chest. He’s not waving his arms uncontrollably. Why would Trump imitate a man who has difficulty moving at least one of his limbs by madly thrashing his own? The answer to all these questions is this: The media and their political handlers constructed a fake news talking point against Trump and ran with it. The truth would have derailed their anti-Trump, anti-Republican, anti-conservative agenda. This, of course, is not the only Trump lie the media and the TDR sufferers have tried to immortalize. McInnes, a controversial and provocative fellow who has described himself as a “western chauvinist” and “anarchist,” covered the Top 10 Trump Myths last week. It’s a skillful takedown of the narrative that was carefully crafted to vilify Trump — and by extension the deplorables who voted for him or against Hillary Clinton — and delegitimize his presidency. The lesson here is while the Democrats, and the branch of the DNC that’s also known as the media, are doing all they can to smear Trump as a depraved, crude and hateful man, the people who best fit under those terms are his accusers.

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I realize I’m lucky because the old man I’m a caregiver for (my A.A. sponsor and best friend and father) is a multimillionaire. He’s done a lot for me and I have done a lot for him. I wouldn’t be where I’m at today if it wasn’t for the kindness of this Catholic man. But you do not understand what it’s like to be where I have been. I had nothing. I could not function like other people my whole life. I am mentally ill and I could not relate to people my whole life. I did not know how to talk to people or make friends. I was laughed at and mocked my whole life. It wasn’t until I met my sponsor a few years ago that things started really getting better. He’s a true Catholic. It’s only a Catholic that would do what he has done for me.

Our faith in Christ, who became poor, and was always close to the poor and the outcast, is the basis of our concern for the integral development of society’s most neglected members. - Pope Francis

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