How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

St_Michael · March 9, 2018, 3:41am

Okay Dave,

I just talked to my 87 year old best friend (AA sponsor, father) and he said the market’s the best it’s ever been. He has some investments that are booming. So, it looks like I will get a good Christmas this year. Thanks to Trump.

anon12438761 · March 9, 2018, 3:41am

You guys are right - taking down ISIS - not a big deal.
3% = gdp -not a big deal
economic boom -who cares? Not Canada!!

But - pardoning the 2 turkeys - Priceless!!!
So, I pardone you 2 turkeys as well!! Boom!!

anon12438761 · March 9, 2018, 3:41am

Michael!!! Thank you. You’ve done what some here are unable to do.

Paidion · March 9, 2018, 3:41am

Wow! And here I thought I was giving Trump some credit for his recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel! And what thanks do I get? I’m called a turkey! It seems that the only way you can please these right-wing extremists is to bow down and worshipTrump.

Holy-Fool-P-Zombie · March 9, 2018, 3:41am

I think the Zombie apocalypse, is arriving sooner then we think. People worshiping Trump? Isn’t that the anti-Christ image in Revelations? And here comes the zombies. The tribulation must be starting soon

anon12438761 · March 9, 2018, 3:41am

You can’t scare me with a mob of left-wing drooling fanatics. I lived through 8 years of hell with Obama as wimp-in -chief!
What DOES scare me is the rumor floating around that in a few years Michelle Obama is considering a run.

OH, the horror.

Paidion · March 9, 2018, 3:41am

Hmmm… It had never occurred to me that Trump might be the Antichrist. So I looked up the name “Donald” and found that it’s meaning is “World Ruler”!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald
namemeaningsdictionary.com/meaning-of-the-name/30937/what-does-the-name-donald-mean (See the 2nd heading).

And the meaning of “trump”?
According to vocabulary.com, “To trump is to outrank or defeat someone or something, often in a highly public way.”

vocabulary.com/dictionary/trump

maintenanceman · March 9, 2018, 3:41am

I appreciate you guys going at it. What is your view that the United States is actually primed for another Civil war, but this time it will be cultural, as in Right vs Left…

anon12438761 · March 9, 2018, 3:41am

The rest of the world better hope it doesn’t happen. AS hated as we are, if the US loses its power as a deterrent to agression from fanatics, everyone else is in trouble too. Unless those Lady Mounties are up to the task.

Paidion · March 9, 2018, 3:41am

No, Maintenance Man. We’re not going at anything. We’re just goofing around.

However, your suggestion that there could be another civil war in the USA, may well be the case. I’m not so sure it will be Right vs Left, so much as Trump fanatics vs Trump haters. If I lived in United States I would not fit in with either group of extremists. If a civil war should erupt, I would probably spend much of my time trying to survive while staying out of the conflict.

maintenanceman · March 9, 2018, 3:41am

I understand the goofing around but it is interesting that when I float the idea that there could be a sort of CW in the US that you say that might well be the case.

Paidion · March 9, 2018, 3:41am

Well that’s because you sounded serious about it, and also the fact that normally you don’t goof around.

Cindy_Skillman · March 9, 2018, 3:41am

I don’t think there’s going to be a civil war between lefties and righties. Maybe between righties and what DJT so charitably calls “the swamp.” I could see that happening–if they try to take our president away from us…

Holy-Fool-P-Zombie · March 9, 2018, 3:41am

Well, I don’t speculate on things, I have no data on. But since I know multiple popular languages (at least, well enough to get by), i can migrate to difference places. Then I can sing this song - before I go.

I firgured out, why Dave calls Zombies lefties. They will be what’s left, after the zombie apocalypse is finished.

maintenanceman · March 9, 2018, 3:41am

That is because this is very serious to me.

The Don we know now is much different than he used to be.

I knew DT before he received his load of cash. He was a very different guy back then. Here is a pic I snapped one day.

As you can see I have a great vested interest in this topic.

anon12438761 · March 9, 2018, 3:41am

I wish they guy in the pic was in-vested rather than out-vested. At least a t-shirt.

Cindy_Skillman · March 9, 2018, 3:41am

OMG! Put it on! Put it on, please!

Holy-Fool-P-Zombie · March 9, 2018, 3:41am

Should Jerusalem as the capital of Israel? Well, the Calvinist site - Got Questions - has spoken to a reader inquiry

Should Jerusalem be the capital of modern-day Israel?

Don’t forget to see the last Jedi film. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Last_Jedi

Question: “Should Jerusalem be the capital of modern-day Israel?”

Answer: Jerusalem figures prominently in both biblical history and biblical prophecy, and it is currently the focus of much controversy and political wrangling. As of December 6, 2017, the United States has recognized Jerusalem as the official capital of Israel, acknowledging the facts of history but rankling the Muslim world. All politics aside, the declaration that Jerusalem is the legitimate capital of Israel is biblically and historically accurate.

King David first chose Jerusalem as Israel’s capital 1,000 years before Christ. The city was destroyed in AD 70, but, after World War II, on May 14, 1948, Israel once again became an independent state. The U.S. quickly recognized Israel’s restored status as a national homeland for the Jewish people. Then on December 5, 1949, Israel declared Jerusalem to be its capital again. Unfortunately, other nations have been slow in facing the reality of Israel’s independence and its right to choose its own capital.

In 1995, the United States Congress passed the Jerusalem Embassy Act, which required the U.S. embassy be moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. However, for twenty-two years, implementation of that law was delayed on the grounds of “national security.” Now, finally, the U.S. has officially recognized the obvious—Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. This recognition accords with thousands of years of history and the wishes of Israel itself.

Of course, some are opposed to recognizing Jerusalem as the Israeli capital. Muslims in general and Palestinians in particular (and Muslim terrorist organizations) are offended by the thought of Jerusalem being made the legitimate capital of Israel. This is due in large part to the place the Temple Mount holds as the third holiest Islamic site. According to the Qur’an (Surah 17:1), Muhammad made a miraculous night journey from Mecca to Jerusalem in AD 621. There he led worship at “the farthest mosque,” was lifted to heaven, and returned to earth to carry on his teachings. The Dome of the Rock, built in AD 692, marks the place where Muhammad supposedly ascended to heaven. Today the Temple Mount is under the control of the Jerusalem Islamic Waqf, a trust established in 1187 to manage the Islamic structures in Jerusalem. Under their current rules, access to the holy sites is prohibited to all non-Muslims.

It is important to realize a couple things: first, the Israeli government recognizes the rights of Muslims to worship on the Temple Mount, and it works to protect them there. Second, the Qur’an upholds the rights of the Jews to the Promised Land, which includes Jerusalem: “And thereafter Allah said to the children of Israel, ‘Dwell securely in the Promised Land’” (Sura 17:104; see also Sura 2:122; Sura 45:17; and Sura 57:26).

Normally, every country designates its own capital, and then nations with diplomatic relations with that country build an embassy in that city. For instance, when Brazil moved its capital from Rio de Janeiro to Brasilia in 1961, all the foreign embassies moved as well. The only country in the world whose capital has not been honored this way is Israel. All of Israel’s government buildings, as well as the residences of the President and Prime Minister, are there. Yet not a single foreign embassy is in Jerusalem. We believe that Israel should be afforded the same right as every other country to choose its own capital.

The rebirth of Israel in 1948 was a vital step in the fulfillment of biblical prophecy. The dry bones began coming back together (Ezekiel 37). The recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s true and historic capital is another giant step. The stage is being set for the rest of prophetic scriptures to be fulfilled. We may not know all the implications of current events on the prophetic timeline, but one thing we can say for sure is that Jerusalem is a special city. It is the only city in the world where God has put His Name: “In Jerusalem, which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel, I will put my Name forever” (2 Kings 21:7).

Recommended Resource: The Case for Zionism: Why Christians Should Support Israel by Thomas Ice

Since we have such a good answer…and what appears to be - a great Star Wars movie…How about some Mariachi Music? It’s only 7 minutes or so.

LLC · March 9, 2018, 3:41am

From what I understand, the rebirth of Israel took place when Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD and Christ was resurrected from the dead. This seems to be a reoccurring event.

Again, from what I understand, God does not dwell in a temple made by human hands. Where two or more are gathered in the Spirit of God, there He will be in the midst of them. This can be anywhere, for all of the world belongs to God. No offense to anyone, but I think there are many who still worship stones made by human hands. I don’t know if this is true or not, but I’ve heard that Israel is asking Trump and Putin for help in rebuilding the temple. Some say this is so they can bring back the ritual of sacrifices as prescribed in the Bible.

Cindy_Skillman · March 9, 2018, 3:41am

From my own understanding, just on a secular level, Jerusalem IS the capital of Israel and has been for quite some time. I’m sure it’s disingenuous for the people of other countries whose capitals were taken and/or settled no more peacefully than Jerusalem (even if farther in the past) to grouse about what city the people of Israel have designated as their capital. Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. That, if anything, is settled science. It’s nothing more or less than realistic to recognize that fact.