Matthew 25:46

[maintenanceman]

I would agree with this but you seem to be disengaged with how man’s understanding is developed. Will you explain?

Yes. It occurred mainly because of the revelation of Jesus the Anointed. He revealed the Father as He had never been known before, for example, He said that the Father is kind to unthankful and evil people. Moses and the prophets described Yahweh as killing or bringing judgment through war on evil people.

So, to clarify, you believe Jesus but not Moses and the prophets?

[Paidion]

So, to clarify, you believe Jesus but not Moses and the prophets?

Yes, Jesus was the ONLY-begotten Son of God, begotten before all ages and was just as divine as the Father. He was called “God” in John 1:1, not in the sense of being “the only true God” (as Jesus addressed the Father (John17:3) but “God” in the sense of being of the same essence as the Father prior to His birth. Though He was born fully human, He divested Himself of His divine attributes when He became human. (Philippians 2:7 NASB). Jesus never made a mistake and was never wrong.

Moses and the prophets were mere human beings, and they lived long before Jesus revealed God as He truly is—the personification of LOVE. So they had only a partial knowledge of the character of God.

[maintenanceman]

So, to clarify, you believe Jesus but not Moses and the prophets?

Yes, Jesus was the ONLY-begotten Son of God, begotten before all ages and was just as divine as the Father. He was called “God” in John 1:1, not in the sense of being “the only true God” (as Jesus addressed the Father (John17:3) but “God” in the sense of being of the same essence as the Father prior to His birth. Though He was born fully human, He divested Himself of His divine attributes when He became human. (Philippians 2:7 NASB). Jesus never made a mistake and was never wrong.

Moses and the prophets were mere human beings, and they lived long before Jesus revealed God as He truly is—the personification of LOVE. So they had only a partial knowledge of the character of God.

That seems to be a very suspect understanding seeing that Jesus continually quoted the prophets and the law. And his position was to ‘fulfill’ the law. He seemed to be pretty in tune with what ‘Dad’ was doing with his people. You seem to be very liberally dismissive of much all of the OT that God himself deemed so very important

[anon12438761]

We had a pretty good discussion here once. Chad you might want to read it. Maybe you’ll disagree, but there were some good points made.

A Psalm with a kick; interpretation.

Great stuff Dave I’m using Coverdale’s method along with Channing’s advice when looking at dem other Psalms (something else that you started up )

[maintenanceman]

We had a pretty good discussion here once. Chad you might want to read it. Maybe you’ll disagree, but there were some good points made.

A Psalm with a kick; interpretation.

Thanks, always up for learning but when I clicked the link, I did not seem to be able to figure it out. Maybe it was my third grade education Am I supposed to scroll way up from the link?

Thanks

[anon12438761]

Sorry - that linked to the bottom of the page; just scroll up to the opening post and continue as usual.

[davo]

THE METHOD

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from Miles Coverdale:

It will greatly help you to understand the Scriptures if :
-you are careful to be aware of not only what is spoken or written, but :
-of whom
-and to whom,
-with what words,
-at what time,
-where,
-to what intent,
-with what circumstances,
-considering what goes before and what follows after.

Hmm well, would you look at that… CONTEXT!!

[anon12438761]

Amazin’ ain’t it??

[anon12438761]

Chad - I"m not trying to teach you anything - just pointing to an interesting thread.

[Origen]

In “The Wars of the Jews,” Josephus indicates that Jonathan was imprisoned “αιωνιος.” Does that mean that Jonathan’s imprisonment lasted for an age?
Actually it lasted for three years.

According to TDNT, ed Kittel, author Sasse, Vol 1, p.168, on AIDIOS, Sasse remarks concerning Jude 6 “in everlasting chains” & “Cf. for this expression Jos.Bell.,6,434…of the lifelong imprisonment of John…”, with “lifelong” being the Greek word aionios. This interpretation seems similar to that in the OT of a slave being his masters for olam, i.e. for life.

[maintenanceman]

Chad - I"m not trying to teach you anything - just pointing to an interesting thread.

But you did teach me something: scroll man scroll

You quoted in your part 2:

4. “The Christian dispensation is a continuation of the Jewish, the completion of a vast scheme of providence, requiring great extent of view in the reader. Still more, the Bible treats of subjects on which we receive ideas from other sources besides itself; such subjects as the nature, passions, relations, and duties of man; and it expects us to restrain and modify its language by the known truths, which observation and experience furnish on these topics.”

I like that very much. Hope you had a good Thanksgiving

[anon12438761]

I did, thank you - food/fellowship was great -it was however not quiet!

I liked that quote as well; I think it says quite a lot about our approach to the Bible.