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message from a true christian?

**Admin note: this is an archive copy of the thread created by Wikki in order to claim that Bret Belko attempted to publicly humiliate him by sending him a private letter, and to get the forum to join with him in this false charge against Bret.

Wikki’s first message consisted entirely of a copy-paste of Bret’s private letter of remonstrance to Wikki, along with the thread title “message from a true christian?” The ad/mods archived the thread in a private location until we could sort things out (possibly in Wikki’s favor had the evidence gone that way.) If Bret gives us permission we will repost that private message here, below this explanatory note for this thread.

I have copied this thread back from the private archive to a public category without further alteration except to (currently) eliminate Bret’s private letter. “Christian Living” seemed the most appropriate category under the circumstances.

This thread is locked in order to prevent Wikki, who has a past history of deleting the content of his posts in order to prevent people from using those in reference to his actions, from doing so again here; and also to protect the original shape and extent of the thread.**

Wiki do you realize that you’ve just supported what Bret said in that PRIVATE message that he sent to you?

All I can say is that ALL your messages except the one from this morning and this one now in which you are trying to hurt me and bait be… they all say “shaking the dust,” therefore no one can make an informed desicison about your previous comments. I stand by what I wrote to YOU in PRIVATE and I think by you posting that, reinforces what I wrote. Wikki, I feel for you, and since no one can now read your old posts, you really have proven my point that you are not here to be part of a group that genuinely loves one another even through our disagreements, but rather, you are here to impose your beliefs on all of us and cause seperation amongst us. As I said in my PRIVATE email to you, these ARE my friends and very, very good people and I stand by that and they do NOT deserve your disrespect. I, for one, won’t stand for it. They ALL deserve respect whether or not we all agree. I want to say thank you for sharing my private message with the board. It’s just too bad that you basically have deleted ALL your postings to say “shaking the dust,” so that no one else can make an informed decision on your remarks.

I’m very sorry for you, it must be a very lonely place when one tries so hard to get a reaction out of the rest of us.

In spite of your putting MY PRIVATE message out here, I stand by it, and I sincerely hope and pray you find whatever it is you need in your life. My prayers are with you and that you find genuine happiness whether that be here or somewhere else.
Blessings and God be with you as you live your life. :slight_smile:
Bret

I’m merely pointing out, Bret, that those claiming to be christian do not act as christians. I called one person on a judgement, and offered a challenge to that person, and was condemned by others here on this site because I felt 2 days was enough time for dirtboy to respond to the challenge.
You people are not ready for what God has going on because of your desire to follow other men. That is why I deleted my posts, and claimed “shaking dust” from my feet. you people on this forum, for the most part, are willing to hang jesus on the cross because you expect jesus to come back floating on a cloud.
You, Bret, have disrespected me with your self righteous comments. Doesn’t a christian have the responsibility of living their life as Jesus did? When did jesus say the things to anyone that you said to me? Is there something I’m missing here? I’m happy that you have appointed yourself the spokesperson for the group. You have my phone number, Bret. you could have chosen to call me instead of attempting to publicly humiliate me. I attempt to post things, inspired by God, so that those with an eye, and those with an ear, may form an educated, adult opinion for themselves of what I believe God wishes that I pass on to others.
God allows me a different understanding of what scripture presents for humanity, and because what I believe does not fit in with modern christian beliefs, my understanding has been discounted, merely because I wish to not follow the crowd.
I find it interesting, Bret, that when we talked for nearly three hours on the telephone, you were in agreement that our views were quite similar. I see, Bret, that you wish to be part of the crowd, rather than “one crying out in the desert”
I can take a rebuke. I’ll examine what one says to me and attempt to learn from it. My goal is to serve God, by what God allows me to understand. I read scripture, ponder the words of the prophets, and ask the Father for understanding of those words. I follow the “narrow path”, instead of the superhighway known as christianity.
I withheld much of what I understand to comply by the rules of this forum. Since I am not currently recognized as a “prophet”, or a published author, my words are not considered. You christians need to read more of the bible than just the verses you connect together to glorify flesh. I see few others actually pondering what the bible was designed for, and that is a way to pass information , inspired by God, to those that understand the words. I didn’t just say anyone able to read, but others that actually understand. There is a clear and concise difference.
Anyone willing to discuss, on an intellectual level, what God may have going on for humanity, I’m willing to discuss with you. Once again, can’t say I’m right. I only wish to present what may be possible according to scripture. Place your version of christianity in scripture in place of the “jews” and scripture may become obvious to you. You will persecute and “kill” anyone that says anything different than what is being taught by modern christianity. Ezekiel spoke of “two sisters”–oholah, and her younger sister oholibah. These sisters are “judaism” and “christianity”. But that’s only my opinion. God will show who He has chosen to understand.
What you people are not getting, is that I wish not follow other men, as you do. Not sure which book, chapter and verse in the bible does God inspire the prophet writing these books to tell humanity to follow men before Himself.
With all of this said, I’ll finish up now. I only wish to promote others to think about what the prophets were trying to relate. I’m not asking for followers, nor forgiveness for my beliefs. Take a chance, think for yourself for a change. You may find it enlightening.

                                       Matthew

We don’t have a “bump” tool, so I’ll add this brief comment in order to move it up on the active topic list.