Need criticism of "The Evangelical Universalist" for 2nd Ed!

[Alex_Smith]

Robin has asked me to help find criticism of “The Evangelical Universalist” so he can hopefully address it in the 2nd Edition next year!

NOTE that they do not want me to change the main text. They are after

1. a new preface
2. study questions
3. an appendix on Rob Bell
4. an appendix of replies to criticisms of the first edition
5. a scripture index

So if they have suggestions to change the main text I will not be able to actions such changes. Partly because we’d need to retypeset the whole book which would change the pagination and that may make it a bit more awkward for those giving page numbers in references.

So I’ve gone through both Luke & Joe’s sites, and the first 60 results brought up by Google.

If anyone else has any criticisms please let me know.

[WE_ARE_ALL_BROTHERS]

If it has study questions I wonder whether it would be of benefit to have a “further reading” section. There might be an equivalent in the first edition, but I can’t remember and I don’t have my copy. Perhaps the footnotes suffice. Just a thought.

[Cindy_Skillman]

So . . . are those willing to critique supposed to suggest things out of the blue, or will he e-mail a pdf? I do critiques for friends sometimes, and if he’d like to have me look at it, I’d be honored to give a layman’s perspective, for what that might be worth.

[Alex_Smith]

If it has study questions I wonder whether it would be of benefit to have a “further reading” section. There might be an equivalent in the first edition, but I can’t remember and I don’t have my copy. Perhaps the footnotes suffice. Just a thought.

Thanks, I’ll pass the idea on

So . . . are those willing to critique supposed to suggest things out of the blue, or will he e-mail a pdf? I do critiques for friends sometimes, and if he’d like to have me look at it, I’d be honored to give a layman’s perspective, for what that might be worth.

The publishers have requested no changes to the main text so that the page numbers for quotes don’t change (although if there was something majorly flawed there might be a case). Unfortunately I don’t have a pdf I’ve bought both the paperback & Kindle edition (amazon.com/The-Evangelical-U … B0051WA3M2).

[Revival]

Robin can start with his explanation of the refutation he received by Paul M in “Universalism, Colossians 1:15-20, 1 Corinthians 15:20-28, the Already–Not Yet and the Parousia”. That was epic!

[Alex_Smith]

Robin can start with his explanation of the refutation he received by Paul M in “Universalism, Colossians 1:15-20, 1 Corinthians 15:20-28, the Already–Not Yet and the Parousia”. That was epic!

Thanks Revival. I assume this is the Universalism, Colossians 1:15-20, 1 Corinthians 15:20-28, the Already–Not Yet and the Parousia. Robin commented on that post, but I’ll remind him of it in case he’s forgotten. So did Jason Col 1, 1 Cor 15, Already-Not Yet, and the Parousia

[Cindy_Skillman]

Alex, you mean you own the version that’s already in print? I do too, but if he wants a critique on his study questions, etc., we’d need to be able to see them. Or is it suggestions he wants?

[Alex_Smith]

Alex, you mean you own the version that’s already in print? I do too, but if he wants a critique on his study questions, etc., we’d need to be able to see them. Or is it suggestions he wants?

Ah, sorry I was unclear, Robin wants to know what the main criticism is of the current version, so that hopefully he can respond in the second edition. However you raise a good point, I’ll ask if he wants us to give him feedback on the study questions etc.

[DualCitizen]

Along with my argument from the two ages and already/not yet discussed here, I’d humbly toss this one out there:

The Injustice of "Infinite Hell for Finite Sins" Argument

Hi group, I’m just looking for critical feedback on the below argument. By my lights, one of the main objections to traditionalism is that its view of hell is unjust. There’s many reasons for this, but one popular objection is that it is unjust to punish anyone with an “infinite hell” when they’ve only committed “finite sins.” I take the term infinite to be non-literal, standing for something like “endless.” Anyway, I’d just like to get some feedback on the below to see if it’s an argument worth…

I’d make some changes and shore it up in light of some of Jason Pratt’s criticisms, but I stand behind the argument in the main. It’s relevant since Parry uses the argument I’m responding to in TEU to argue against the ‘justice’ or ‘morality’ of an ‘infinite’ hell.

[JasonPratt]

Agreed with PaulM, sort of.

[Emet_Stone]

Please see my review of the 1st ed:

Evangelical Universalism - A Theological House of Cards

Link:

emetstone.blogspot.com/2012/03/e … gical.html

Thanks for reading.

Emet

[Alex_Smith]

Please see my review of the 1st ed:

Evangelical Universalism - A Theological House of Cards

Link:

emetstone.blogspot.com/2012/03/e … gical.html

Thanks Emet, I’ve passed it on to Robin. If he doesn’t have time to reply to it, I’ll have a go