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? on Matthew 25:41-46

Matthew 25:41-46
41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

What exactly does this mean and why does it say ‘depart from me’ if the everlasting fire (lake of fire?) will be ‘in the presence’ of God? Sounds almost contradictory…

And everlasting here means age enduring i assume?

There’s always a tension, because God is everywhere, sustaining things. So even in Hell, God would actively be keeping people alive, holding their atoms together. But at the same time, there is still a sense of being not in God’s presence (i.e. Right now, I think He hides behind a curtain, and I suspect He will also in Hell).

I’d say aionios means eonian (of or in the eon - from the context the eon after Judgement Day).

“IF” this passage is speaking of the judgment of “nations” and how they treat either the Jews and/or Christians, then it is speaking of the chastizement/punishment that comes to nations who fail to embrace the children of God, I think.
“IF” this passage is speaking of the judgment of individuals and how we treat the less fortunate, then it is warning of the age-to-come (from God as ordered by God) chastizement/punishment that comes to those who are selfish and do not even see the needs of those around them, much less be moved with compassion to meet those needs, I think.
“IF” this passage is a warning to the Jews concerning their treatment of the followers of Chist, then it is a warning concerning punishment from God that would come to Israel which culminated in the destruction of Jerusalem and the Jews being scattered further among the nations, I think.

And it is entirely possible that Jesus spoke in such obtuse language so as to enable several diverse messages to be heard through the one passage, like a diamond that breaks light into diverse colors through its facets, a multi-faceted message!

The language of punishment is meant to instill fear and change. It typically either highlights the worst possible scenario, or as is in this case, the punishment is vague but scary. The unknown aspect of punishment adds to its fear level, for those who need to be scared into obedience like little children.

Personally, I find this passage very convicting. It has challenged me to not be so selfish, but to see and take action to meet the needs of those around me. And historically I can see how nations that treat badly either Jews or Christians end up in a bad way. And of course, the Jews as a nation did reject Christ and Jewish believers resulting in the destruction of Jerusalem and terrible oppression by the Romans.

This passage is not a legal treatise on punishment, but it is a prophetic call to repentance filled with metaphorical and relational language. To take this passage and then try to use it to prove one specific view of punishment is, well, to misuse this passage I believe. This passage was not meant to teach specifics on the punishment of sin in this life or the life-to-come; it is meant to illicit positive change, repentance through warning of punishment to come for being self-consumed.