The Evangelical Universalist Forum

Post Mortem Salvation - Moses?

One of the readings in our service this morning was about the death of Moses:

The LORD then said to him, “This is the land I promised Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, ‘I will give it to your descendants.’ I have let you see it with your own eyes,* but you will not cross into it*.”
So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, as the LORD had said. He buried him in the valley in the land of Moab facing Beth-Peor, and no-one to this day knows where his grave is.
(Deuteronomy 34.4-6 HCSB)

When I heard this, I thought of this NT passage:

After six days Jesus took Peter, James, and John and led them up on a high mountain by themselves to be alone. He was transformed in front of themm, and His clothes became dazzling - extremely white as no launderer on earth could whiten them.* Elijah appeared to them with Moses, and they were talking with Jesus*.
(Mark 9.2-4 HCSB)

So Moses did make it into the promised land in the end, long after he had died and been buried in Moab by God. I wonder if there is some support here for the possibility of post-mortem salvation. What do others think?

In Matthew’s account of this event, Jesus calls what Peter, James, and John saw, “a vision”:

And as they were coming down the mountain, Jesus commanded them, “Tell no one the vision, until the Son of Man is raised from the dead.” Matthew 17:9

So it seems likely that Moses and Elijah were not actually there (after all, they were dead). The whole thing seems to have been a vision which was jointly experienced by Peter, James, and John. That vision began by their seeing Jesus transfigured" (literally from the Greek “metamorphized” or “transformed”).

Good point Paidion, although Mark is usually accepted to be the older version. Matthew occasionally “corrects” Mark or adds explanatory phrases. Anyway I checked the Matthew verse in Jonathan Mitchell’s literal translation and it may not be as clear cut as the standard versions suggest:

I understand the transfiguration to be a revelation of the way things really are, rather than a vision in the sense of imagining something which is not real.
Having said that, I suppose that in the end, my idea is probably of devotional value, rather than being particularly useful in constructing a theological argument!

Paidon in the What is Truth thread you said Jesus being the truth meant He is the reality. That intrigued me and so I did a little digging on the word aletheia.

Etymology.com and a couple other places had (one of) the Greek concepts for the word to mean the revealing, or the unveiling, or the non-hidden.

I think that fits with what REVdrew just said about the transfiguration being revealing how things really are. Our flesh is the veil, hiding the reality of who/what we really are underneath (or what we will become). “and we with unveiled faces reflecting the glory of the Lord, are being transfigured into the same image (He is the very image of God), from glory to glory”