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Preaching to the dead

I’d like Paidion to answer this as well.

Just so that you understand, Gabe, I no longer answer any of Davo’s questions. I no longer wish open myself to his ridicule of my reasoning and his personal attacks.


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Nah… not me

THE W said

Clearly you don’t know that either as that verse says nothing about the gospel being preached to the deceased. dead means spiritually dead. those dead in sin are souls in prison(ephesians 2:1-5). the power of the gospel frees them from their prison. the gospel both condemns the sinner for falling short of God’s glory(judges them as men in the flesh) as well as provides a way of redemption(live according to God in the Spirit…or zao).

there are no seconds chances bud…sorry.

Dear W:

Our Father’s purposes are not rooted in chance, first, second, third! This is NOT a Heavenly gambling casino!!

“Who shall render an account unto him who is holding in readiness to judge living and dead; for, unto this end, even unto the dead, was the glad-message delivered,—in order that they might be judged, indeed, according to men in flesh, but might live according to God in spirit.” -Rotherham Emphasized-


nekros= a corpse (from nekus)=

Breathed his last/ lifeless.

Deceased/ departed.

Destitute of life/ without life.


Disobedient= apeitheo=

Not to allow one’s self to be persuaded.

To refuse or withhold belief & obedience.

To refuse belief and obedience.

Not to comply with.

Live= zao=

To be alive with resurrection life.

Are our broadest hopes broad enough? Shall there be a nook or abyss, in all the universe of God, finally unlightened by the Cross? Shall there be a sin, or sorrow, or pain unhealed? Is the very universe, is creation in all its extent, a field wide enough for the Son of God?

Never ever limit the God of Glory! His reach goes beyond anything any of us can imagine.

“under the earth”= katachthonios

Katachtonios rooted in chthon

“So that all created beings in heaven and on earth - even those long ago dead and buried - will bow in worship before Jesus Christ.”

Rotherham Emphasized=

“In order that, in the name of Jesus, every knee might bow—of beings in heaven, and on earth, and underground,— and, every tongue, might openly confess—that Jesus Christ is, Lord, unto the glory of God the Father.”

Jesus Christ ministers to the disobedient dead and the outcome is glorious!

Here is my current understanding on the topic:

Dear Hermano: Wikipedia is a wonderful resource, but alas they have zero knowledge of what is transpiring in the anointed words of St. Peter. There were exactly 8 individuals who were saved on the ark. The rest were buried in the great flood and are identified as “disobedient” and “nekros”.

Disobedient= apeitheo=

Not to allow one’s self to be persuaded.

To refuse or withhold belief & obedience.

To refuse belief and obedience.

Not to comply with.

These ones who the Master visited at His resurrection from the dead, were ministered zao life.

Live= zao=

To be alive with resurrection life.

"For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to human standards in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit. "

I don’t think Christ preached to the dead here but rather Noah preached to the people in his time through the Spirit of Christ because Peter called Noah a preacher of righteousness.

Dear Steve: Noah was indeed a preacher of righteousness. The net result of his preaching = zero. The risen Christ preaching to the dead = 100% success!.

Christ also has once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: by which also he went and preached to the spirits in prison; which once were disobedient, when once the long suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was in preparation, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water… for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.”

Zoe is rooted in zaō.

Zoe =

Zoe - New Testament Greek Lexicon - New American Standard

zaō =

Life, live, quick in the Bible (127 verses). Greek: ζάω, zaō, G2198