Rom 8:30 Is "glorified" future?

[Craig]

Romans 8:30Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)

30 And those He predestined, He also called; and those He called, He also justified; and those He justified, He also glorified.

I have usually heard that “glorified” is a future event but because it is so certain for anyone who is justified, Paul used the past tense rather than the future tense. Calvinists use this a lot in reference to eternal security and the “ordo salutus”.

I was wondering however, if Paul may have been thinking of believers already having been glorified and so the past tense is appropriate.

John 12:43

43 For they loved praise (glory) from men more than praise (glory) from God.

Is there a sense in which we receive praise (glory, honour, approval) from God now, along with justification?
Could we all fall short of the glory of God (Rom 3:23) until we receive the “glory” of God in our justification? Just wondering….

[Cindy_Skillman]

I’ve always thought it was an already-not yet kind of thing. But maybe in this case, we’ve been glorified in that we’ve been placed in Christ Jesus and so share in His glory. Obviously we’re not completely conformed to His image yet, but just in being given the power to become sons of God, we HAVE been glorified. Not to the level we will be (as Paul mentions earlier in the same chapter – about the sons of God being revealed), but at least to some extent – perhaps positional, perhaps more than that.

[nimblewill]

I am of the opinion that glorification is a synonym for manifestation. Of Course I Could Be Wrong If this is true and Christ in me is the hope of Glory then God manifests Himself through His body to show the world who He is.

Romans 8:18 I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. 19 For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. 20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21 that[h] the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.

[Craig]

Thanks Cindy and Nimblewill for your helpful replies.

[redhotmagma]

But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit.

The two shall be one flesh.

I and the Father are one.

That is glorification I believe.