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Son of God?

Hello,
I wanted to know if we have clear extra bibilcal evidence that the first Christians and Apostles
believed that Jesus is the Son of God and that He is devine?
Thank you
Daniel

Hi Daniel… I guess going to the ‘patristic writings’ you’d find just that - they’re “extra bibilcal”.

Here are some early Christian quotes affirming Jesus to be the Son of God:

Polycarp to the Phillipians, Ch. 12

** Ignatius to the Ephesians, Ch. 20**

Ignatius to the Philadelphians, Ch. 6

Epistle of Barnabus, Ch. 5

Justin Martyr’s Apology, Ch. 22

Irenæus, Against Heresies, Book 3, Ch. 16

Schaff, Philip (2009-06-08). Ante-Nicene Fathers Volume 1 - Enhanced Version (Early Church Fathers) (Kindle Locations 25115-25121). Christian Classics Ethereal Library. Kindle Edition.

In the late 1st century - early 2nd century, Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch, wrote many letter that paved the way to our modern christology and trinity formulas.

Ignatius to the Ephesians, Chapter 19

Ignatius to the Trallians, Chapter 7

The Epistle of Ignatius to Polycarp, Chapter 8

Peace
S.

Hi, Dani,

I think it might be more beneficial to you to look at historical accounts from* non-Christians* to prove that Jesus is the Son of God. After all, many unbelievers – Jews and Gentiles alike – have written accounts that describe Jesus of Nazareth as having performed miracles, suffered Crucifixion, and gathered many followers – who ultimately died for their convictions in Christ.

Here are some interesting accounts I stumbled upon, all written by non-believing bystanders to the history of Christ.

**Cornelius Tacitus **

Cornelius Tacitus was a Roman historian who wrote two major works, the Annals
and the Histories. Tacitus refers to Christ in the Annals, which he wrote in 115 AD. In this passage he records the great fire that occurred in Rome. Nero looking for a scapegoat placed the blame on the Christians. Tacitus wrote,

*Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the
most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians
by the populace. Christus from whom the name had its origin, suffered the
extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our
procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked
for the moment, again broke out not only in Judea, the first source of evil, but
even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the
world find their center and become popular. (Tacitus, Annals, 15.44)
*
From this passage we learn several facts. First, Christians were hated by the
community at large for their “abominations.” Second, Christians received their name
from Christ (Christus in Latin). Third, Christ was a historical figure. Fourth, Christ died
during the reign of Emperor Tiberius (14-37 AD). Fifth, Christ was put to death by the
procurator Pontius Pilate. Sixth, Christ’s death ended the spread of Christianity for a
short time. Seventh, Christianity originated in the land of Judea. Finally, Christianity
spread rapidly throughout the Roman Empire beginning in Judea and spreading even to
Rome. These facts recorded by Tacitus affirm several facts mentioned in the Gospels and
Acts.
**
Thallus **

Thallus in 52 AD, wrote a history of the Eastern Mediterranean world from the
Trojan War to his day. Although much of his work is lost, Julius Africanus writing in
221 AD quotes Thallus. Regarding the death of Christ Thallus wrote,

*One the whole world there pressed a most fearful darkness; and the rocks were
rent by an earthquake, and many places in Judea and other districts were thrown
down. This darkness Thallus, in the third book of his History, calls, as appears to
me without reason, an eclipse of the sun. (Julius Africanus, Chronography 18.1) *

Thallus reveals several facts in this passage. First, the crucifixion account was
known in the Mediterranean world. Second, darkness covered the land on the hour of
Christ’s death. Third, an earthquake shook the city. Fourth unbelievers knew of the
supernatural events surrounding the death of Christ and were offering a naturalistic
explanation.

**Pliny the Younger **

Pliny was the governor of Bythnia in Asia Minor. In 112 AD, Pliny writes a letter
to Emperor Trajan regarding the Christians. His province was experiencing financial
difficulties because his economy depended on the religious festivities surrounding the
pagan religions and temples. The spread of Christianity was hurting this industry and he
was seeking a way to deal with the Christians. He wrote in his letter the following:
*
They (the Christians) were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it
was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god and
bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit
any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they
should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate,
and then reassemble to partake of food – but food of an ordinary and innocent
kind. (Pliny the Younger, Letter, 10:96) *

From this passage we learn several facts about early Christianity. First, the
Christians worshipped Christ as God. This strikes a serious blow to skeptics who attempt
to promote the idea that Christ was a man who was promoted to divine status by
Christians in the fourth century AD at the Council of Nicea. Second, the Christians
followed closely the ethical code taught by Christ. Third, the “food” Pliny refers to is
probably the sacraments of communion which would show this meal was celebrated by
the Christians.
**
Gaius Seutonis Tranquillas **

Seutonis was the chief secretary to Emperor Hadrian (117-138 AD). Seutonis
first mentions the Christians when he refers to a series of riots that broke out in Rome in
49 AD during the reign of Emperor Claudius (41- 54 AD). He wrote, “Because the Jews
at Rome caused continuous disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus, he expelled them
from the city.” (Seutonius, Life of Claudius, 25.4)

In a second reference, he writes regarding Nero’s persecution of the Christians.

*“After the great fire at Rome …. Punishments were also inflicted on the Christians, a sect
professing a new and mischievous religious belief.” (Seutonius, Life of Nero, 16)
From these two brief references we learn the following. First, the Jews were
expelled from Rome during the reign of Claudius (which coincides with Acts 18:2).
Second, Christ was the reason for the Jewish riots. Christians referred to believers who
followed Christ. *

**Mara Bar-Serapion **

Mara Bar-Serpaion was a Syrian who wrote a letter to his son encouraging him to
follow the courageous example of wise men who courageously died for the truth they
proclaimed. Mara Bar-Serapion’s letter was written some time between the first to third
centuries AD. It reads as follows:

What advantage did the Athenians gain from putting Socrates to death? Famine
and plague came upon them as a judgment for their crime. What advantage did
the men of Samos gain from burning Pythagoras? In a moment their land was
covered with sand. What advantage did the Jews gain from executing their wise
King? It was just after that that their kingdom was abolished. God justly avenged
these three wise men: the Athenians died of hunger; the Samians were
overwhelmed by the sea; the Jews, ruined and driven from their land, live in
complete dispersion. But Socrates did not die for good; he lined on in the statue
of Hera. Nor did the wise King die for good; he lived on in the teaching which he
had given.

From this passage we learn the following. First, Jesus was a historical figure.
Second, Jesus was considered by many to be a wise and virtuous man. Third, the Jews
unjustly killed Jesus. Fourth, Christ’s teachings were followed and spread by His
followers.

**Celsus **

Celsus was a Roman Philosopher who wrote a work in 177 AD, criticizing the Christians
in what he saw as a contradiction of monotheism. He scoffed at Christians who were
worshipping a man as God.

“Now if the Christians worshipped only one God they might have reason on their side.
But as a matter of fact they worship a man who appeared only recently. They do not
consider what they are doing a breach of monotheism; rather they think it perfectly
consistent to worship the great God and to worship his servant as God. And their worship
of this Jesus is the more outrageous because they refuse to listen to any talk about God,
the father of all, unless it includes some reference to Jesus: Tell them that Jesus, the
author of the Christian insurrection, was not his son, and they will not listen to you. And
when they call him Son of God, they are not really paying homage to God, rather they are
attempting to exalt Jesus to the heights."

Although Celsus clearly misunderstood Christian teachings, from the work of
Celsus we learn several things. First, Christians were monotheists, like the Jews
polytheism was rejected. Second, the Christians worshipped Jesus as God. Here is
evidence of the doctrine of the Trinity, one God revealed in three persons. In this passage
the Holy Spirit is not mentioned but the Son, the second member of the Trinity, is
worshipped as equal in nature to the Father. Third, Christians held very strongly to the
belief in the deity of Christ.

**Flavius Josephus (37-97 AD) **

Josephus was a member of the Pharisees who became a historian for the Roman
Empire after the Roman and Jewish war. His major work the Antiquities was written
between 90-95 AD. He makes two references to Jesus in his work. He first mentions
Christ in reference to James.

*"… he assembled the Sanhedrin of the judges and brought before them the brother
of Jesus, who was called the Christ, whose name was James, and some others and
when he had formed an accusation against them as breakers of the law, he
delivered them to be stoned." (Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews, 20.9.1) *

His second reference to Jesus reads as follows:

“Now there was about that time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man,
for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth
with pleasure. He drew to him both many of the Jews and many of the gentiles.
He was [the] Christ; and when Pilate at the suggestion of the principal men
amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at first did not
forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine
prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning
him; and the tribe of Christians so named from him are not extinct at this day.
(Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews, 18.3.3)”

There are portions of this passage that are disputed by historians that are indicated
by the italics. The majority of this passage is agreed by many to be authentic. The
controversy among historians is whether three phrases were later Christian interpolations.
Professor Schlomo Pines of Hebrew University did a study on an Arabic manuscript of
this passage. He believed the Arabic version was more accurate to the original text. He
proposed this as a possible reading that most likely reflects the original wording of this
passage on Jesus.

*At this time there was a wise man who was called Jesus. His conduct was good
and he was known to be virtuous. And many people from among the Jews and
the other nations became his disciples. Pilate condemned him to be crucified and
to die. But those who became his disciples did not abandon his discipleship.
They reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion, and
there he was alive; accordingly he was perhaps the Messiah, concerning whom
the prophets have recounted wonders. *

Even if we remove the disputed portions, Josephus still confirms several key facts
regarding the life of Christ. First, James was the brother of Jesus. Second, the Jewish
leaders stoned James. Third, Jesus was a virtuous man. Fourth, Jesus had many disciples
from the Jews and the Gentiles. Fifth, Jesus was crucified under Pontius Pilate. Sixth,
Jesus’ disciples believed He had appeared to them resurrected. Finally, Jesus was
believed by many to be the Messiah.

It is also significant to note that in surrounding chapters, Josephus also confirms
other figures mentioned in the Bible such as the Herods, the emperors Augustus,
Tiberius, and Claudius. He also mentions the high priestly families of Caiaphas,
Ananias, and Annas. He also mentions events such as Gamiliel’s mention Judas the
Galilean’s uprising in Acts 5:37 (Antiquities 18:1.6), the famine mentioned in Acts 11:28
which occurred in the days of Claudius, (Antiquities 17), the sudden death of Agrippa in
Acts 12 (Antiquities 19), and the death of John the Baptist (Antiquities 18). Numerous
facts mentioned in the Gospels and Acts are mentioned in the work of Josephus.

**Talmud **

The Jewish Talmud records the oral traditions of the Jews. This compilation
began in the first century AD and was completed by 200 AD. In Sanhedrin 43, a
reference is made of Christ.

*One the eve of the Passover, Yeshu (Jesus) was hanged. For forty days before the
execution took place, a herald went forth and cried, ‘He is going forth to be
stoned because he has practiced sorcery and enticed Israel to apostasy. Any one
who can say anything in his favor, let him come forward and plead on his behalf.’
But since nothing was brought forward in his favor he was hanged on the eve of
the Passover.
*
From this passage we learn several facts. First, Jesus was killed (“hanged” is an
alternate expression referring to crucifixion) on the eve of the Passover. Second, Jesus
was accused of apostasy. Finally, Jesus gathered a significant following is Jews.

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I’m sure there are loads more. This is just what I found after a quick internet search, and I’d say it’s pretty convincing.:slight_smile:

God bless,

Kate

Wow, great post, Kate! Thanks for all the super-helpful info. I had no idea there was so much like this out there. :slight_smile:

No problem! And thank Google.:slight_smile:

Thank you so much for your answers
God bless you
:smiley:ani