Suicide and Christian Universalism


#1

People who commit suicide out of mental illness aren’t murdering themselves, impenitently or otherwise.

Whether she has other sins she is impenitent of is another question.


#2

If a Christian dies with sin in their lives, are they then not saved? What if a Christian told a lie right before they died, or was committing adultery? Suicide, though tragic, is usually the only excape people see for the pain they are in. In judgment we will give an account for our lives before the Righteous Judge Our Father; and God will administer punishment as needed to effect reconciliation, healing, and deliverance. So God in grace, mercy, and truth will judge us all, whether we commit suicide with a gun or by eating too much and not exercising (obesity).


#3

its a valid question but to my mind a large percentage of suicide ‘‘victims’’ are just that , some of us will never have any idea of just how much unbearable pain they go through !, I tend to think most of them will go through those gates before a good number of professing Christians do .goodness GOD really is just !


#4

if you can’t cope with life, then that means things have gotten really bad for you. if God, the Author of our salvation and the very true Being of Love, can not show the compassion we would show in those circumstances, then we’ve signed up to the wrong faith…
contrary to that, God IS love, and God will not be horrible to someone who couldn’t handle something. He will gather them into His arms and welcome them into His kingdom.

i don’t know about honour suicides, like Kamakazi pilots or spies. suicide bombers…well they’re brainwashed.
but i could imagine God being fair. chances are i will die with some sin unconfessed and possibly unrecognised, and i fully expect God to be as good as His word and save me.


#5

it goes without saying that the likes of suicide bombers are on the opposite end of the spectrum for me ! that being said I once posted a vid. on facebook of a young ‘‘Palestinian’’ [there’s a modern myth] who was on the Israeli boarder with a vest full of tnt
I remember looking at the intensity of his anguish it was almost unbearable and feeling for him [not the evil men who sent him and had brainwashed him all his life ] the look almost said ‘‘what the heck I live in a world of horror and pain I may as well end it all’’


#6

What’s the modern myth?


#7

‘‘palestine’’ it doesn’t exist


#8

That is true – but then, there does remain some part of it? The West Bank and the Gaza strip are still mostly Palestinian :cry:


#9

modern myths are so dull.
back in the olden times, they had PROPER myths, with pegasi, dragons, giants, centaurs and mermaids!


#10

like button !

I hate to burst your bubble we are all brothers but those who call them selves ‘‘Palestinians’’ did so after a certain period of time to advance ‘‘the cause’’ [the total destruction of Israel] they are mostly Jordanians and other Arabs who moved there from neighbouring Arab countries


#11

Oh, I see where this is going :wink: Zionism is profoundly biblical and thoroughly Christian, huh? … I imagine that we’re going to disagree on this discussion, so let’s not hijack this thread :wink:


#12

Yes please don’t have an Israel vs Palestine debate here, as I don’t think it would be edifying to anyone.


#13

I dont know my brothers and sisters, but I am going through a painful torment at this moment. My wife who is also a christian who believes in universal salvation told me last Saturday that she lost her love for me as her husband. We are still together because we have a 3 year old beautiful boy. She says she still loves me as a spritual brothert, but cannot find a love for me as her husband. I do not blame her, as I have been pretty hard on her for the last six months due to worldly problems and work. To say I have not thought about suicide would be a lie. I have, as the pain I feel inside is too much to bear. I know God hears my prayers, I put all my hope in Him to help our marriage. God be with you all.


#14

I am so sorry to hear this brother. I will pray for you right now, and will endeavour to keep you both (and your son) in my prayer. Yes, be assured that God does answer our petitions in due time. I have seen two seemingly hopeless marriages restored by fervent prayer just this year – one of these just this last week. May God grant you the strength you need.


#15

Sword,
You have my prayers! I am convinced that God will bring reconciliation of all – to Himself and to each other.

Sonia


#16

Thank you for your prayers, and thank you for not judging me. I already feel the strength from God and His assurance and faith in me. Some would say that suicide is a cowards way out. Let me assure you, it is not. I have been on this road before, and with God’s help, He has pulled me through everytime. Again thank you and God be with you all.


#17

Thank you for your prayers, and thank you for not judging me. I already feel the strength from God and His assurance and faith in me. Some would say that suicide is a cowards way out. Let me assure you, it is not. I have been on this road before, and with God’s help, He has pulled me through everytime. Again thank you and God be with you all.


#18

Also praying for you Sword.


#19

I am sorry to hear of this. I will pray for you and your family.


#20

sorry to hear this ‘‘sword’’ I shall pray for you also , may I ask if she is open to patching things up [so to speak ?] would she be willing to go and get some counselling ? please don’t end your life ! ,thank-you for your brutal honesty.