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Suicide and Christian Universalism

Sure, Dave. Internal bleeding taking place. Which stopped. And when the GI specialist did his exam, he saw no evidence of it. And low iron count and low red blood cell count. Which was back to normal, after a second blood test - about 2 or 3 weeks afterwards. Then I had the GI specialist’s exam (not sure the technical name for it). But it’s looking at the upper and lower GI track. The only thing remaining, is what they label Esophagitis and GERD. Which is relatively easy to deal with, from the perspective of things like spiritual healing, homeopathy, Ayurveda and Native American herbal lore. But for the traditional GI specialist, he prescribed a generic acid blocker - which I am taking.

I also have pressure, in the left eye optic nerves. Which no functional cause is found by:

The ophthalmologist dilating the pupils and conducting an eye exam
The Optometrist, with his high-tech equipment
An MRI (before and after contrast done), and finding the MRI normal, by both a radiologist and neurologist
Oriental pulse dianosis

The optic nerve pressure is a bit tricky. As nothing is found - by traditional medicine. And homeopathy, Ayurveda and Traditional Chinese Medicine, that yet to hit on the right remedy. Again, maybe a healing occurred. But I still don’t feel the benefits.

Spiritual healing and ceremonies…as well as alternative modalities (like homeopathy, Ayurveda and Traditional Chinese Medicine), can take some time. After all, this is not Christ…doing his healing miracles, in the Bible - mind you.

Prescription drugs can be expensive - in the US. Which is why I like the Trump idea…to let Medicare negotiate with the pharmaceutical companies. Another idea in a recent AARP article, is to allow folks to get them from Canada.

Thanks. I’m no stranger to esophagitis, though in my case it had progressed to what is called Barrett’s Syndrome, a pre-cancerous condition caused by an excess of stomach acid continually flooding the esophagus. 4 ulcers.

The acid reducers, in combination with Gaviscon before bed, are working. Have to get an upper endoscopy every few years though.

Your experience is more interesting!!

Hi, Dave. Well, my female cousin’s husband - has a similar condition. But he needs surgery and gets it done periodically - at Rush. Medicine man Russel Four Eagles, cured his father of cancer, by a mixture of maple syrup and baking soda. Don’t ask me why it would work. I have no clue. But he’s also having me take that, which will probably prevent any cancer from forming.

A light bulb just turned on. That’s why he is having me take it. :bulb:

In fact, let me share medicine man’s own cancer treatments in 2013, for educational purposes only. Which one should only use, to compliment what traditional medicine is doing.

Anyway, the Christian site Patheos, had an interesting article today:

If I Have Enough Faith, Will God Heal Me?

Or watch the youtube video, referrenced in the article:

I like the words of Christ, shared in this video. When Christ said, this is why I have come. Reminds me of a saint from the East, I’ve spend time with. You can get the book on Amazon. This House Is On Fire: The Life of Shri Dhyanyogi by Shri Anandi Ma (Author). People were lined up for healings. And he left shortly afterwards. Saying something to the same effect: “This is not my work”.

In other words, both Christ and Shri Dhyanyogi, had other missions. Missions ordained by God. Even though they could both heal, healing was NOT their mission.

Here’s what I have shared - in another forum thread here:

Some of my friends and relatives, believe that only modern medicine heals.

That goes against everything I have learned in life. Yes, it has its place. And it has its purpose.

But how did folks get healed, before modern medicine came alone?

They got healed by the herbal traditions of Ayurveda, Traditional Chinese Medicine and the herbal lore, of Native American herbs.

Or they get healed by the proper homeopathic remedy. Where I studied for years, under a master homeopath

Or they get healed by spiritual healing traditions, of the Native Americans. Where I spent years, with the Two Features Medicine Clan. Participating in their ceremonies (i.e. Like the pipe ceremony). I have felt the power myself.

Or by a Roman Catholic priest, with the gift of healing. Whom I attended his healing masses - for years. Of which I have felt the power, of his touch of the Holy Spirit.

Or doing the healing meditation, of the Bruno Groening Circle of Friends. Where every published healing, is medically verified.

Or with healers and masters, from the East. Where I have hung around such folks, as Dhyan Yogi Madhusudan .And I know many people, healed by mantras he gave them.(see book on Amazon, This House is On Fire by Shri Anandi Ma (Author) or Beyond the Lodge of the Sun: Inner Mysteries of the Native American Way by Chokecherry Gall Eagle. Or the biography of Native American medicine man and Holy person - Fools Crow, written by Lutheran minister Thomas E. Mails (Author).

Actually, if I wasn’t doing some of this things, things would have been much worse.

Either the things I have experienced are quite real. Or they are not. There is no in between.

Which means that Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox saints do not heal. The Charismatic church tradition is a hoax. Mantras from the east and the Native American pipe ceremony - can’t heal. All the cases in the Bruno Groening schooling letters are baloney.

I haven’t experienced that.

But on the other hand, I have no problems, also working with modern medicine. Especially when it’s cost affordable (i.e. like a Medicare advantage plan). Or some country has universal health care.

It ties the healing to Christianity - this way. There is Holy Spirit healing. But the Eastern Orthodox, talk about God’s essence and energies. We can’t know his essence, but we can know his energies. Tapping into God’s energies, is what produces RC and EO saints. But a Sufi master, can tap into the energies, and use them for passing on spiritual transformation - to students. A healer like the German healer, Bruno Groening, can use this energy for healing purposes.And some sacred items, can concentrate this energy. Like an awakened, Native American pipe. Or the Christian Eucharist - when properly concentrated.

Ultimately, God is the healer. But he works through both modern medicine, alternative medicine, prayer and healers.

After all, look at Luke in the bible. He saw all the healing miracles of Christ, Paul and the Apostles. But he was a physician also and never renounced being one.

Well, read what the video and corresponding article has to say - on this subject. Then read what I have said. Then test the waters for yourself. And make up your own mind.

None of that hocus-pocus is going to keep my airway from collapsing at night leaving me exhausted the following day (and the day after that, and the day after that). If alternative medicine worked, it would be called “medicine.”

Spiritual healing is NOT “hocus pocus”. Even in the Christian RC and EO church traditions, the Christian Charismatic tradition, and the Native American spiritual traditions…They still say that, it is alive and well. But it’s up to you, to conduct the search. And discover the truth for yourself. I can only say that it is alive and well - in my experience. And should be used, in conjunction with traditional medicine and the ancient medical traditions.