in the documentary Hellbound?, a lot of the evangelical Christians who believed in the traditional eternal damnation belief argued that eternal damnation must be true because it would be unjust if God allowed Hitler into heaven after all the horrible things he did. They also claimed that eternal damnation is a tradition that has always been the “official” teaching of the Christian church since the beginnings of the early church. Yet in spite of all their protests, I’ve found that most supposed “traditional” Christians seem to accept a very limited form of Christian universalism, even if they don’t want to admit it. One time I got into a debate with a “traditional” eternal damnation Christian on the existence of hell and I asked him if everyone who didn’t convert to Christianity before they died went to hell for all eternity just for not converting, does that mean Anne Frank is in hell? And isn’t it very cruel and unjust for God to send her to hell after all the torture Anne Frank has been through in her life already? He fell back on insisting that it wasn’t his role to judge the fates of others but he hoped she would have converted at the last minute and that God would accept her into heaven. Ultimately he never really answered the question, but I find it telling that he was unable to say for absolute certainty that Anne Frank was damned for eternity, and in fact he went through a lot of mental gymnastics to explain why God could have given her a chance at salvation while still claiming he believed in eternal damnation as punishment for non-belief. I find this attitude towards hell is very common not just among this guy but on most “traditional” Christians in general. Even though they will assert that eternal hellfire is a required doctrine of Christianity, they know it’s politically incorrect to just declare that someone who never had the opportunity to hear the gospel message is burning in hell, so they have no problems allowing for a very limited form of Christian universalism in those cases where there was no opportunity presented to convert while alive.
Yes, I’ve seen that before e.g. to avoid saying Christopher Hitchens is in hell, some of the Christian media were trying to say that he might’ve secretly repented on his death bed - even though he explicitly & repeatedly said to discount it if he did because it would only be due to a moment of weakness due to the pain
I hope their demurrment is more charitable than mere political correctness, usually.
(…I declare “demurrment” to be a real word. )
The Presbyterians like to distinguish between the “ordinary means of grace” (the word preached) and the extra-ordinary. That grants them quite a bit of wiggle room.
Time to sharpen Occam’s razor. If an increasing number of complex hypotheses are needed to make ECT work then ECT’s probably not true.