No, I haven’t. But here are some Catholic (and non-Catholic) discussions on the topic.
Here’s a great book. That gave me a handle, on Hell as exile:
The Skeletons in God’s Closet: The Mercy of Hell, the Surprise of Judgment, the Hope of Holy War
It’s compatible with Catholic theology. Where some theologians say, folks will continually contemplate their shame.
Or, as the Pope Francis article mentions:
“The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, “eternal fire.” The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God, in whom alone man can possess the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs.” (Catechism of the Catholic Church, no. 1035, promulgated by Saint Pope John Paul II)
But Eastern Orthodoxy and Eastern Catholicism, has a different perspective on hell:
I see both views as compatible. Where hell is an exile from God. But also heaven and hell, is equally being in the presence of God.
Perhaps a solution is consider an Eastern Catholic or Byzantine church under Rome.
Let me quote from an answer or two, given in the first forum …for the Catholic perspective, on hopeful universalism:
A Summary and Some Resources
The doctrine of universal salvation (also known as Apokatastasis or Apocatastasis) has usually been considered through the centuries to be heterodox but has become orthodox. It was maintained by the Second Vatican Council and by Pope John Paul II and it is promoted in the new Catechism of the Catholic Church and in the post-Vatican II liturgy.
It was supported by Pope John Paul II the following are three quotes from him.
- Eternal damnation remains a possibility, but we are not granted, without special divine revelation, the knowledge of whether or which human beings are effectively involved in it. (General Audience of July 28, 1999)
- Christ, Redeemer of man, now for ever ‘clad in a robe dipped in blood’ (Apoc, 19,13), the everlasting, invincible guarantee of universal salvation. (Message of John Paul II to the Abbess General of the Order of the Most Holy Saviour of St Bridget)
- If the Holy Spirit, the Paraclete, is to convince the world precisely of this ‘judgment,’ undoubtedly he does so to continue Christ’s work aimed at universal salvation. We can therefore conclude that in bearing witness to Christ, the Paraclete is an assiduous (though invisible) advocate and defender of the work of salvation, and of all those engaged in this work. He is also the guarantor of the definitive triumph over sin and over the world subjected to sin, in order to free it from sin and introduce it into the way of salvation. (General Audience of May 24, 1989)
As for the statement that the author claims that the teaching is found in the catachism, here’s the rationale:
The new, post-Vatican II Catechism of the Catholic Church also gives us to hope that all will be saved.
- 1058 The Church prays that no one should be lost: ‘Lord, let me never be parted from you.’ If it is true that no one can save himself, it is also true that God ‘desires all men to be saved’ (1 Tim 2:4), and that for him ‘all things are possible’ (Mt 19:26).
- 1821 We can therefore hope in the glory of heaven promised by God to those who love him and do his will. In every circumstance, each one of us should hope, with the grace of God, to persevere ‘to the end’ and to obtain the joy of heaven, as God’s eternal reward for the good works accomplished with the grace of Christ. In hope, the Church prays for ‘all men to be saved.’
Although in reading those myself, I don’t know that they teach that universalism is true but rather that they have hope that it is. But, clearly, if the have hope that it’s true, it’s not opposition to the teaching. And much searching has failed to turn up recent statement denouncing universalism.
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Ave Maria!
A distinction needs to be made regarding Our Lord Jesus Christ’s ‘universal salvation’ (if this is the correct wording) and Universalism. Saint John Paul II made a number of comments about salvation (shown below) - and it is true Our Lord has given His life so that he may save each and every soul. But each and every soul is required to participation in this salvation, without which the soul will be damned.
All Catholic teaching must be read in continuity with the teaching of the Catholic Church throughout time. A paragraph, a sentence standing alone without a true Catholic mind can be skewed.
Saint John Paul II
Eternal damnation remains a possibility, but we are not granted, without special divine revelation, the knowledge of whether or which human beings are effectively involved in it. (General Audience of July 28, 1999)
The above says, we do not know who is in hell. I doesn’t say, no one is in hell.
Christ, Redeemer of man, now for ever ‘clad in a robe dipped in blood’ (Apoc, 19,13), the everlasting, invincible guarantee of universal salvation. (Message of John Paul II to the Abbess General of the Order of the Most Holy Saviour of St Bridget)
Our Lord through his sacrifice has an invincible guarantee of salvation for all. But this must be seen through the teaching of the Church, we know that Our Lord taught that the Son of Man (Himself) separates the sheep and the goats (Matthew 25:31-46) - Christ Died for all of humanity, but we must participate in that salvation.
If the Holy Spirit, the Paraclete, is to convince the world precisely of this ‘judgment,’ undoubtedly he does so to continue Christ’s work aimed at universal salvation. We can therefore conclude that in bearing witness to Christ, the Paraclete is an assiduous (though invisible) advocate and defender of the work of salvation, and of all those engaged in this work. He is also the guarantor of the definitive triumph over sin and over the world subjected to sin, in order to free it from sin and introduce it into the way of salvation. (General Audience of May 24, 1989)
The Holy Spirit continues the work aimed at universal salvation. There isn’t any assertion of universal salvation regardless of a soul’s actions.
1058 The Church prays that no one should be lost: ‘Lord, let me never be parted from you.’ If it is true that no one can save himself, it is also true that God ‘desires all men to be saved’ (1 Tim 2:4), and that for him ‘all things are possible’ (Mt 19:26).
Praying that no one should be lost and God desiring that all men are saved, doesn’t mean that all are saved. Of course the Catholic Church desires the salvation of man, that is why Jesus Christ himself founded it.
1821 We can therefore hope in the glory of heaven promised by God to those who love him and do his will. In every circumstance, each one of us should hope, with the grace of God, to persevere ‘to the end’ and to obtain the joy of heaven, as God’s eternal reward for the good works accomplished with the grace of Christ. In hope, the Church prays for ‘all men to be saved.’
The above specifically states that we can hope in the glory of heaven, for those who love Him and do His Will. This particular quote demonstrates that we must participate in obtaining our salvation.
It must be clarified that even though there are not recent condemnation for a particular proposition, error or opinion, this doesn’t indicate that the Catholic Church now accepts it. In fact there are numerous proposition, error or opinion with regards to faith which haven’t been recently condemned. What does this mean? It means they remain condemned - the Catholic Church teaches for all time and thus something condemned yesterday is condemned today.
God Bless
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Welcome to Christianity.SE! And thanks for offering an answer. Your answer starts out very much on point with the quote from John Paul II. Then it seems to veer off a bit, the quotes and text aiming more to establish that salvation is available to everyone, which is not quite what the question is about. For some tips on writing good answers here, please see: What makes a good supported answer?. The Site Tour gives a quick overview of this site. – Lee Woofenden Aug 20 '15 at 13:19
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Yes, the Catholic Church condemns doctrinal universalism.
Hell is not empty, and this is Scriptural, for example Luke 16:19 ff.:
19 There was a certain rich man, who was clothed in purple and fine linen; and feasted sumptuously every day.
20 And there was a certain beggar, named Lazarus, who lay at his gate, full of sores,
21 Desiring to be filled with the crumbs that fell from the rich man’s table, and no one did give him; moreover the dogs came, and licked his sores.
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom. And the rich man also died: and he was buried in hell .
23 And lifting up his eyes when he was in torments, he saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom:
24 And he cried, and said: Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, to cool my tongue: for I am tormented in this flame.
25 And Abraham said to him: Son, remember that thou didst receive good things in thy lifetime, and likewise Lazareth evil things, but now he is comforted; and thou art tormented.
26 And besides all this, between us and you, there is fixed a great chaos: so that they who would pass from hence to you, cannot, nor from thence come hither .
27 And he said: Then, father, I beseech thee, that thou wouldst send him to my father’s house, for I have five brethren,
28 That he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torments.
29 And Abraham said to him: They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30 But he said: No, father Abraham: but if one went to them from the dead, they will do penance.
31 And he said to him: If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they believe, if one rise again from the dead.
v. 22 makes it clear that hell contains at least this rich man (so hell is not empty).
v. 26 makes it clear that once you are in hell, you are there for all eternity (so this rich man is still there, and thus hell is still not empty).
See the interpretation of the Fathers of the Church in Catena Aurea on St. Luke’s Gospel ch. 16, lectio 5.
Fr. John A. Hardon, SJ, writes in his A Modern Catholic Dictionary (1980) on p. 553:
UNIVERSALISM, DOCTRINAL . The theory that hell is essentially a kind of purgatory in which sins are expiated, so that eventually everyone will be saved. Also called apokatastasis, it was condemned by the Church in A.D. 543, against the Origenists, who claimed that “the punishment of devils and wicked men is temporary and will eventually cease, that is to say, that devils or the ungodly will be completely restored to their original state” (Denzinger 411 ["211 Can. 9 Si quis dicit aut sentit, ad tempus esse daemonum et impiorum hominum supplicium, eiusque finem aliquando futurum, sive restitutionem et redintegrationem esse (fore) daemonum aut impiorum hominum, an. s. "]).Also, Pius II condemned , in the letter Cum sicut of Nov. 14, 1459, " That all Christians are to be saved. " [" Et omnes Christianos salvandos esse. "]
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This question is specifically asking “If so, when where and why was it [universalism] condemned?” Can you provide any references for how Catholics have used this passage to condemn universalism? – curiousdanniiJun 17 '14 at 7:47
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The Catholic Church condemns universalism.
Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, Sess. 8, Nov. 22, 1439, ex cathedra:
“Whoever wishes to be saved, needs above all to hold the Catholic faith; unless each one preserves this whole and inviolate, he will without a doubt perish in eternity"
Saint Leonard of Port Maurice [A.D. 1676-1751], on the fewness of the saved: “After consulting all the theologians and making a diligent study of the matter, he [Suarez] wrote, ‘The most common sentiment which is held is that, among Christians [Catholics], there are more damned souls than predestined souls.’ Add the authority of the Greek and Latin Fathers to that of the theologians, and you will find that almost all of them say the same thing. This is the sentiment of Saint Theodore, Saint Basil, Saint Ephrem, Saint John Chrysostom. What is more, according to Baronius it was a common opinion among the Greek Fathers that this truth was expressly revealed to Saint Simeon Stylites and that after this revelation, it was to secure his salvation that he decided to live standing on top of a pillar for forty years, exposed to the weather, a model of penance and holiness for everyone. Now let us consult the Latin Fathers. You will hear Saint Gregory saying clearly, “Many attain to faith, but few to the heavenly kingdom.” Saint Anselm declares, “There are few who are saved.” Saint Augustine states even more clearly, “Therefore, few are saved in comparison to those who are damned.” The most terrifying, however, is Saint Jerome. At the end of his life, in the presence of his disciples, he spoke these dreadful words: “Out of one hundred thousand people whose lives have always been bad, you will find barely one who is worthy of indulgence.”
The Vatican II counter-church does not condemn it.