Hello,
can anybody help me with this:
- what is the Millenium and
- what are the diffrent views and
- how do they influence our understanding of the Bible as a whole and
- which view(s) support(s) universalism the most?
Thanks and Love
Dani
Hi Dani,
I can help perhaps with 1 or 2 of your questions.
1) what is the Millenium
This is the riddle that we all try to fathom. It has many meanings to many people. I cannot say what it is, I could only tell you my limited opinion. I am inclined to think that the “millennium” is a term meaning “The Day of the Lord”. It is not literally one thousand years.
2) what are the diffrent views
The millennium does have different views: such as historic premillenniallism, dispensational premillennialism, post-millennialism and amillennialism. The book below is a good introduction to these differences.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51I6awgP7bL.SY344_PJlook-inside-v2,TopRight,1,0_SH20_BO1,204,203,200.jpg
Steve
Hello,
can anybody help me with this:
- what is the Millenium and
- what are the diffrent views and
- how do they influence our understanding of the Bible as a whole and
- which view(s) support(s) universalism the most?
Thanks and Love
Dani
I think it literally means a thousand years. However there are differing views. The main view is a thousand year period starting with Christ’s second coming. The Amilleniast sees it has the period of time between his first and second coming. I believe the Preterist sees it as the time between Jesus death and 70AD , around 40 years.
Hi steve7150,
Welcome, … it is good to have your contributions. Where are you from?
Stefcui (Steve)
Welcome, … it is good to have your contributions. Where are you from?
Hi Steve,
I’m from the greater NYC area and i found out about this forum because Paidion posted a link on another forum we frequent , thenarrowpath.com
I did read Robin Parry’s book “the Evangelical Universalist” and thought it was awesome.
Where are you from?
I’m from Australia. I live in remote QLD - called Far North Queensland (FNQ). We have the crocodiles and the beautiful scenery of the tropics, as well as the northern aspect of the Great Dividing Range - “the third longest land-based range in the world”. I stumbled onto the site while researching Universalism.
I’m from Australia. I live in remote QLD - called Far North Queensland (FNQ). We have the crocodiles and the beautiful scenery of the tropics, as well as the northern aspect of the Great Dividing Range - “the third longest land-based range in the world”. I stumbled onto the site while researching Universalism.
Wow what a cool sounding place! Do you live there out of choice or do you live there because of work?
Yeah, it’s a beautiful spot. This pic below is where we all work.
http://www.cairnsconvention.com.au/images/hero-accommodation.jpg
This pic is where we live - just 15 minutes from the city center.
http://www.lemontreeart.com.au/img/member/3/large/P323.jpg
We decided to come here on a bit of blind faith that we would love it. My wife and I took the kids traveling through much of Australia for 3 years when they were younger. We did home-schooling out the back of the wagon. When the kids were getting too old to travel anymore (they all have jobs now), so we took a gamble on a new destination that we had never been to. That’s what brought us here, and we love it now. 
Steve! You forgot the second pic. 
Yeah, I had to change the 2nd pic because the first one I tried to use would not display - it was internet protected 
Oh . . . My!!! If we ever have an EU convention, you are SO hosting!
Yeah, we stumbled onto paradise. I never wanted to come here because I am afraid of sharks and crocodiles… but sightings of crocodiles is very rare, and the nets they have for swimming here are very good.
…which when you think about it makes it the same as the A-mill view except for the endless eons between 1st and 2nd comings.
Nice pics Stefcui… good to see you bragging. 
Hmmmm… I always thought the Preterist believes that we are in the millenium right now.
As for me, I am a historic pre-millenialist, the view held by most of the Christians of the first and second century.
Thanks Davo. I come from down your way. Apart from the floods of recent, you live in a nice part of Australia too. You can’t beat QLD!!!
Damn straight… not even NSW 
!!
The FULL or consistent pretêrist view definitely understands the millennial reign as being in the biblical generation to whom Christ came Ad30-70 – his “this generation” etc. It was a time of trial and tribulation where those of faith would come into the fullness of Israel’s redemption. In a real sense it emulated the 40yr wilderness wandering period where those of faith came into the fullness of their redemption, i.e., the Promised Land.
I believe the Preterist sees it as the time between Jesus death and 70AD , around 40 years.
Hmmmm... I always thought the Preterist believes that we are in the millenium right now.
The FULL or consistent pretêrist view definitely understands the millennial reign as being in the biblical generation to whom Christ came Ad30-70 – his “this generation” etc. It was a time of trial and tribulation where those of faith would come into the fullness of Israel’s redemption. In a real sense it emulated the 40yr wilderness wandering period where those of faith came into the fullness of their redemption, i.e., the Promised Land.
“…the power and mercy of God’s grace is NOT limited to man’s ability to comprehend it…”
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davo
Paidion,
The Full Preterist thinks everything in the bible ended in 70AD but there are nuances. Your good friend Doug is a Preterist except for the fact he thinks the millenium is still open until the end of the world.
Hi Steve,
If “Doug” believes the end of the world is an end of the time-space universe then he would be a ‘partial pretêrist’. Full pretêrism view ‘the end of the world/age’ as a reference to the coming end of the Mosaic era, i.e., the world of the old covenant. It was this world that was coming to an end in Christ’s Cross-Parousia event Ad30-70.
Paidion can you please explain what historic pre-millienialist is?
Thank you.
Blessings
Dani