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The Great White Throne Judgement

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THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT–Compiled by Apollos from the writings of Father David.

I ran across this while doing searches online and thought it was pretty good. :slight_smile:

Took me a while to read it all, Its numbered all the way down to 76. Thought it was very enlightening and seems to go according to scripture.

Take a look. :sunglasses:

kt70.com/~jamesjpn/Mo_letter … dgment.htm

#2

I think he’s wrong about number 54. tho… He says…

  1. BUT THE CHURCH HAS TAUGHT FOR SO MANY YEARS THAT HELL IS PERMANENT, & they really gag on this verse in Peter about Christ preaching to these already-departed “spirits in prison”. (1Pe.3:19.) In fact, the only way they can explain it is by saying that He went down there to preach condemnation.–Can you imagine?–To confirm their sentence!–To show that that’s what they deserved! What a horrible, cruel interpretation of that verse, that Jesus went down there & preached to the prisoners just to make them feel worse by not giving them any hope at all! But I am convinced that He preached the Gospel to them, & that if they believed it & received it & repented of their sins, they were released! PTL!

I think he thinks that the spirits were spirits of people, when in reality, they were the spirits of the fallen angels.

1 Peter 3:18–20
For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water.

Jude 6–7
And the angels who did not keep their 3proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Tho what throws that off is that it says they are reserved for judgment on the great day. I’m assuming at the great white throne judgement and 1 Peter 3:18–20 says that Christ went down to preach to them. That wasn’t the GWTJ. Did Christ want to preach to them ahead of time? And what was he preaching?

So its a little vague which makes number 54 a bit hazy…

#3

i’m not sure i agree that Jude and Peter referring to the same thing. i don’t see any reason to doubt that Peter was talking about people.
but there’s a reason these verses have been debated ad infinitum. nobody is sure what they mean, really!