The Evangelical Universalist Forum

Universalist Songs

Here’s a song from Godspell that has always struck me as being very universalist indeed (even if it was written in the days before gender inclusiveness became an issue? Man- Anthropos = Humanity- take it as read! :laughing: )

When wilt thou save the people?
Oh God of mercy when?
The people, all the people
Not thrones and crowns,
But men
Flowers of thy heart
O God are they
Let them not pass like weeds away
Their heritage, a sunless day
God save the people

Shall crime bring crime forever
Strength aiding still the strong?
Is it thy will, O Father
That men shall toil
For wrong?
Oh, no, say thy mountains
No, say thy skies
Man’s clouded sun shall brightly rise
And songs be heard, instead of sighs
God save the people!

When wilt thou save the people?
Oh God of mercy when?
The people, all the people!
Not thrones and crowns,
But men!
God save the people
For thine they are
Thy children as thy angels fair
God save the people
From despair
God save the people!

(CHORUS)
Oh God save the people!

I love Godspell! So many great songs; Prepare ye the way, We plough the fields, On the willows … as well as the one you picked out. An international school near us performed it last year and a girl who comes to our church was an amazing Jesus. I’m not sure about the faith of the writers but I’ve seen the show three or four times and always found it very moving.

Hi Drew -

I thought you’d be a Godspell fan! I saw it at the Wyndhams in 1973 when I was very, very young. Jeremy Irons was paying the John the Baptist/Judas Iscariot clown. Luckily David Essex - of whom I’m no great fan - had a cold the night i went and another actor took his place. ‘Save the People’ even at the time - when I was a little fundamentalist - seemed to be conveying a very different set of emotions, and a different imaginative vista from my other fave raves then like Larry Norman’s ‘I wish we’d all been ready’ :unamused:. Certainly the whole of Godspell seems far closer to the Gospel than the other hit of time 'Jesus Christ Superstar. This other show may or may not have certain dramatic and//or musical merits. But it’s portrayal of Jesus!!! I know that there’s no accounting for taste but the character of J.C. Superstar seems very much a self absorbed, self pitying, emotionally manipulative hippy to me.

I believe the lyricist for Godspell is Jewish - he seems to have intuitively grasped the Jewish universalism of the Gospel.

Blessings

Dick

I loved that musical, but Wow! I don’t remember those particular lyrics. I’m going to try to find the song on YouTube. I’ve always enjoyed singing “Prepare Ye the Way” and “Day By Day”. Thanks for sharing, Sobornost

Hi Kelli :slight_smile:

The reason why this song came to mind is that I heard a new version of it – by Hunter Parrish and the New Broadway cast (on the New Broadway cast album). It brings out the impressive potential of the lyrics to communicate hope and yearning more than previous recordings I have heard. Well – I really like it (and you can get it as an MP3 track for half the price of a cup of coffee).

Blessings

Dick

John Ball (Sydney Carter)

Who’ll be the lady, who will be the lord
When we are ruled by the love of one another
Who’ll be the lady, who will be the lord
In the life that is coming in the morning

Chorus
Sing, John Ball and tell it to them all
Long live the day that is dawning
And I’ll crow like a cock, I’ll carol like a lark
For the life that is coming in the morning

Eve is the lady, Adam is the lord
When we are ruled by the love of one another
Eve is the lady, Adam is the lord
In the life that is coming in the morning
Chorus…

All shall be ruled by fellowship I say
All shall be ruled by the love of one another
All shall be ruled by fellowship I say
In the life that is coming in the morning
Chorus…

Labour and spin for fellowship I say
Labour and spin for the love of one another
Labour and spin for fellowship I say
And the life that is coming in the morning
Chorus…2x

I always liked the songs of Godspell. Christmas is coming so:

Hark the Herald angels sing
Glory to the newborn King
Peace on earth and mercy mild
God and SINNERS reconciled.

Joyfull ALL YE NATIONS RISE
JOIN the triumph of the skies
WITH angelic hosts proclaim
Christ is born in Bethlehem

Hark the Herald angels sing
Glory to the newborn King
Christ by Highest Heaven adored
Christ the everlasting Lord

Late in time behold Him come
Offspring of the favored one
Veiled in flesh the Godhead see
Hail the Incarnate Deity
Pleased as man with MEN to dwell
Jesus OUR Emmanuel

Hail the Heavenborn Prince of Peace
Hail the Son of Righteousness
Light and Life to ALL He brings
Risen with healing in His wings
See He lays His glory by
Born that MAN no more may die
Born to raise the SONS of earth
Born to give THEM second birth
Hark the Herald Angels sing
Glory to the Newborn King.

I think there is at least one more verse that I don’t remember, but this one is very CEU.

Wonderful :smiley:

Mother Julian

Show me O anchoress, your anchor-hold
Deep in the love of God, and hold me fast.
Show me again in whose hands we are held,
Speak to me from your window in the past,
Tell me again the tale of Love’s compassion
For all of us who fall onto the mire,
How he is wounded with us, how his passion
Quickens the love that haunted our desire.
Show me again the wonder of at-one-ment
Of Christ-in-us distinct and yet the same,
Who makes, and loves, and keeps us in each moment,
And looks on us with pity not with blame.
Keep telling me, for all my faith may waver,
Love is his meaning, only love, forever.

**The Fields **

THE FIELDS from Islington to Marybone,
To Primrose Hill and Saint John’s Wood,
Were builded over with pillars of gold;
And there Jerusalem’s pillars stood.

Her Little Ones ran on the fields,
The Lamb of God among them seen,
And fair Jerusalem, His Bride,
Among the little meadows green.

Pancras and Kentish Town repose
Among her golden pillars high,
Among her golden arches which
Shine upon the starry sky.

The Jew’s-harp House and the Green Man,
The Ponds where boys to bathe delight,
The fields of cows by William’s farm,
Shine in Jerusalem’s pleasant sight.

She walks upon our meadows green;
The Lamb of God walks by her side;
And every English child is seen,
Children of Jesus and His Bride;

Albion’s Spectre, from his loins,
Tore forth in all the pomp of War;
Satan his name; in flames of fire
He stretch’d his Druid pillars far.

Jerusalem fell from Lambeth’s vale,
Down thro’ Poplar and Old Bow,
Thro’ Malden, and across the sea,
In war and howling, death and woe.

He wither’d up sweet Zion’s hill
From every nation of the Earth;
He wither’d up Jerusalem’s Gates,
And in a dark land gave her birth.

He wither’d up the Human Form
By laws of sacrifice for Sin,
Till it became a Mortal Worm,
But O! translucent all within.

The Divine Vision still was seen,
Still was the Human Form Divine;
Weeping, in weak and mortal clay,
O Jesus! still the Form was Thine!

And Thine the Human Face; and Thine
The Human Hands, and Feet, and Breath,
Entering thro’ the Gates of Birth,
And passing thro’ the Gates of Death.

And O Thou Lamb of God! whom I
Slew in my dark self-righteous pride,
Art Thou return’d to Albion’s land,
And is Jerusalem Thy Bride?

Come to my arms, and nevermore
Depart; but dwell for ever here;
Create my spirit to Thy love;
Subdue my Spectre to Thy fear.

In my Exchanges every land
Shall walk; and mine in every land,
Mutual shall build Jerusalem,
Both heart in heart and hand in hand.

**I See thy Form (O lovely mild Jerusalem) **

I see thy Form O lovely mild Jerusalem, Winged with Six Wings
In the spacious Bosom of the Sleeper. Lovely Three-fold
In Head & Heart & Reins three Universes of love & beauty
Thy forehead bright: Holiness to the Lord, with Gates of pearl
Reflects Eternity beneath thy azure wings of feathery down.
Ribbed delicate & clothed with feathered gold & azure & purple
From thy white shoulders shadowing. purity in holiness!
Thence feathered with soft crimson of the ruby bright as fire
Spreading into the azure Wings which like a canopy
Bends over thy immortal Head in which Eternity dwells

Let the Slave/The Price of Experience

Let the slave grinding at the mill run out into the field:
Let him look up into the heavens & laugh in the bright air;
Let the enchained soul shut up in darkness and in sighing,
Whose face has never seen a smile in thirty weary years
Rise and look out; his chains are loose, his dungeon doors are open.
And let his wife and children return from the oppressor’s scourge.
They look behind at every step & believe it is a dream,
Singing, 'The Sun has left his blackness, & has found a fresher morning
And the fair Moon rejoices in the clear & cloudless night;
For Empire is no more, and now the Lion & Wolf shall cease
For Everything that lives if Holy

“What is the price of Experience? Do men buy it for a song?
Or wisdom for a dance in the street? No, it is bought with the price
Of all that a man hath, his house, his wife, his children
Wisdom is sold in the desolate market where none come to buy
And in the withered field where the farmer ploughs for bread in vain

It is an easy thing to triumph in the summer’s sun
And in the vintage and to sing on the wagon loaded with corn
It is an easy thing to talk of patience to the afflicted
To speak the laws of prudence to the homeless wanderer
To listen to the hungry raven’s cry in wintry season
When the red blood is filled with wine and with the marrow of lambs

It is an easy thing to laugh at wrathful elements
To hear the dog howl at the wintry door, the ox in the slaughterhouse moan;
To see a god on every wind and a blessing on every blast
To hear sounds of love in the thunderstorm that destroys our enemies’ house;
To rejoice in the blight that covers his field and the sickness that cuts off his children
While our olive and vine sing and laugh round our door and our children bring fruits and flowers

Then the groan and the dolour are quite forgotten and the slave grinding at the mill
And the captive in chains and the poor in the prison and the soldier in the field
When the shattered bone hath laid him groaning among the happier dead
It is an easy thing to rejoice in the tents of prosperity:
Thus could I sing and thus rejoice: but it is not so with me.”

William Blake

Edited post - deleted song far too bitter me dears

Foxes have holes, birds have their nests :smiley:

There was a jovial beggar
He had a wooden leg
Lame from his cradle
Enforced for to beg

And a begging we will go, we will go
And a begging we will go

A bag for his oatmeal
Another for his salt
A pair of little crutches
To show how he can halt

And a begging we will go…

A bag for his chips
Just to see what he could try
With a little bottle by his side
To drink when he’s a dry

And a begging we will go…

‘I begged from the ‘Social’
But they gave me no wealth
But ‘the Lord be praised’
I now beg for myself’

And a begging we will go…

‘To Waterloo and Go
Just to see what we can see
With every man a can in hand
And we shall merry be’

And a begging we will go…

‘It’s in a cardboard box
That I live and pay no rent
But providence provides for me
And I am well content’

‘Of all occupations
The beggar’s is the best
For when he’s tired and weary
Why, he’ll lay him down and rest’

And a begging we will go…

‘I fear no plots against me
I’ve no goods for to sell
Then who would be a king
When a beggar lives so well?’

And a begging we will go

Recently someone shared an awesome song on the Christian Universalist Association Facebook page, called If They’re Not Counted, Count Me Out, by the Christian Metal band Being As An Ocean.

Most of the songs on their album (I checked out their other stuff too) are hard to decipher since it’s screamo metal, but in this particular song, the lyrics are more just passionately spoken (along with some awesome instrumentation, imo :wink:), and thus much easier to understand.
The song is clearly questioning and speaking out against the teaching of everlasting damnation, and goes back and forth between addressing people and God, honestly expressing raw emotion and a wider hope.
It’s deep and powerful, and I can very much resonate with it, as these were the kinds of thoughts and feelings that I had for years, as I wrestled with the doctrine of hell and the image of God that went with it.

Here’s a link to the song on YouTube:

youtube.com/watch?v=k0rbkB4RoQk

And here are the lyrics:

And that’s the cry of my heart too, and I imagine a lot of others here.

Blessings to you :slight_smile:

Matt

PS I think you’ll especially appreciate this, James (aka corpselight) :wink:

Here’s my current “Relentless Love” playlist (a term I got from Peter Hiett) I have on Spotify:

open.spotify.com/user/jeremysuess.abt/playlist/7C5K3gK8xvHz6ALPL310cs

It includes:

Mighty to Save - Live, Hillsong United
Beautiful Things - Gungor
One Thing Remains (Three versions)
-Jeremy Riddle
-Passion: White Flag
-Passion, Radio Version [feat. Kristian Stanfill]
Love Has Come - Mark Schultz
Rise - Live, Hillsong Live
The Lost Are Found - Live, Hillsong Live
Let Your Kingdom Come- Aaron Ivey, Austin Stone - Live
Your Love is Moving - Christy Knockels
Our God is Love, Hillsong Live

Some of these songs I got off of: godslovewins.com/songs.htm - Thanks Phillip!
-I went through the whole list and for my playlist picked the songs I thought were the best musically and lyrically.

I think this is an incredibly important topic. I am hoping to continue to expand this playlist, so suggestions are most welcome…I’m sure there’s got to be a lot more out there that some of you all know.

Oh, and I suppose for the observant, there’s my real name on the Spotify Playlist, so I guess that unofficially outs me. Hope my pastor doesn’t find out till I can get with him. :laughing:

I’ll get around to posting an intro one of these days.