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Want to test out a way to tip JRP for his work here?

Just to be clear, I’m not (yet) hurting for money, and there are certainly billions of people actually in need of charity. I’m only posting this as an author whose work you (the member or visitor) might have benefited from on occasion. :slight_smile:

I’ve been writing Christian apologetics (and some other evangelism) for almost 20 years, probably nearing 20 thousand pages of work by now, including several book-length studies (with more on the way, God willing and the creek don’t rise), plus one novel. Aside from the novel (many more copies of which I’ve given away than ever sold), I have always made that material available for free, and I hope to always be able to continue doing that.

But, if it happened that anyone wanted to thank me for my work by dropping me a tip in the jar, so to speak, I wouldn’t complain about that either. :mrgreen:

Since, as a publisher, I’m a seller on Amazon, I hereby give myself full permission :wink: to add some “independent seller” listings on my novel’s page which are NOT for buying copies of the novel.

Anyone wanting to tip me for work I’ve done in the past or the present (or the future) has an option of two different kinds of “tip jar”, both of which can be found here at Amazon.

There’s a $5 tip and a $10 tip, but because of the way Amazon works they’re listed as $1 and $6 + $3.99 freight. Amazon keeps a large hunk of either of those, so I’ll see only $2.50 and $6.75 of any single tip – but on the other hand my novel’s sales rank will notch up a bit, so that’s nice. :slight_smile: (Amazon forces all sellers to charge at least $3.99 worth of ‘freight’.)

Note: YOU WOULD NOT BE BUYING A COPY OF ANYTHING! No book will ship. I mean, you can buy a hard copy of the novel, too, while you’re there, but those are other buttons from other sellers (including Amazon itself). I’m reasonably sure some of those sellers are lacing my book’s pages with cocaine or something, because there is no way anyone can be legitimately buying a copy of my novel for $90 + shipping. But anyway, these tip jars don’t buy a physical book.

If you have liked an article I’ve written (here or at the Cadre perhaps), buy a $1 tip (which plus freight will be $4.99); if you’ve gotten a free book (CoJ or SttH), you can buy a $6 tip (which plus freight will be $9.99). If for some reason you want to buy multiples of a tip (e.g. you’ve received a free copy of CoJ and SttH, or you want to tip for appreciation of multiple articles), just tell Amazon you want more than one ‘unit’ when you check out (or go back to adjust your 1-click order if that’s what you want). I may or may not get a higher percentage of the tip that way, I don’t know – I can’t test it because Amazon doesn’t let sellers even start to buy their own things.

As I just indicated, this is partly for testing purposes, to see if the system works at all. I’ll accept any actual tips, too. :slight_smile: But if you want you can just start the process and try to buy multiple units of an item and see what Amazon says its going to charge, and then report back without finishing the buy. That would be helpful, too. Keep in mind that if the system works, this could be a nice way of setting up tips for other major contributors here, too, like Sobornost’s historical research!

Pursuant to all this, I’m currently appending short paragraphs to my SttH pages and to most (not all) of my Exegetical Compilation pages, alerting readers that y’all can tip me if you want. But if you don’t or can’t, don’t worry, it’s no big deal. I’m just making the option available. :sunglasses:

If anyone has advice on better ways to accept tips, you can suggest them below. Amazon eats a lot of the tip, but most people have an Amazon account now, and after all it does help my book sale ranking (even though I’m not actually selling books this way).

(Incidentally, this whole thing is actually a roundabout experiment to see if I can haxor a way for customers of our family business to pay us with a credit card through Amazon. The request doesn’t happen often enough for us to justify having a credit card processing thingy, and giving out a card’s number on the phone would be UTTERLY CRAPPY security. But if I can pick up a little compensation while ginning up a test for doing it this way, yo! :laughing: )

How about a PayPal account? It wouldn’t influence your book rank, but more goes to you and less to an intermediary… :confused:
(I tried it anyway) :smiley:

That was my thought too, let me know if it works…

I’m looking into Paypal, too, but I want to offer our customers at the shop an option they’re more likely to already have an account with.

Well, it seemed to work just fine when I tried it. :smiley:

They (the ones sending money) don’t have to have a Paypal account, Jason. In fact, I think Paypal has some new options for just this kind of thing (they keep trying to sell them to me at any rate, but I haven’t looked at them.) I do most of my giving via Paypal, and most by subscription (so much a month), and that to very small ministries – so it can’t be that hard to set up. You might not even need a website. I know they do charge a fee for anything commercial, and it varies (downward) depending on how much the person sends you.

Considering the fees Amazon will want to charge, I think I’d definitely look into Paypal, or even setting up a website using Cashie Commerce (or similar) that operates a shopping cart via the use of Paypal. Like I said, the customer doesn’t need a Paypal account (unless they want to pay direct from their bank account instead of with a credit/debit card.

I’ll definitely look more into Paypal tomorrow; I want our customers to have as easy a time as possible paying with their credit card without giving us any payment information, and they may feel nervous working with something they haven’t used before. (I know I did when I started using 'pal.) But it would be nice to have options. A customer used to using Paypal can do it that way, a customer used to using Amazon could do it that way.

Thanks very much to the two people who have tipped through Amazon already, though! That helps me test out how 'zon would work. It might still work well for our invoicing purposes (in relation to customers wanting to pay with credit cards – most of our customers are okay setting up a 30Day net account or sending a company check), and they wouldn’t really be billed until we confirmed shipment with a tracking or pro#. So they’d like that. (It can take us several days or weeks to run up an order at the factory, depending on the size and number of the units.)

The people who tipped will receive a “item shipped” notice by your email from Amazon; of course nothing actually shipped but Amazon made me put down something so I chose USPS. One person tipped 3 items, so I’ll be curious how that comes through – does Amazon deduct its part of the freight on each item? (Probably.) I should know by tomorrow.