Watch the first 8 minutes here and tell me that these 3 scholars answered this simple, confused, warmhearted woman’s question.
I get a big NOPE. Lady even has the innocence and courage to say she doesn’t understand.
I started to watch it but as soon as R.C. Sproul came on I turned it off.
Lol Michael.
There’s some stuff about double predestination around 23 mins.
It’s pathetic, they didn’t even come close to answering the question. The woman was too nice even in saying that they sort of answered it. At least MacArthur kind of admitted he didn’t know, even though he still managed to say we’re culpable for not repenting even if we don’t have the ability to repent.
Chris
It’s perfectly simple, and those three wise men explained it all perfectly. I’m sorry, but the woman who asked the question must be really thick not to understand it.
We are entirely culpable for our own sinfulness, and the just punishment for that sinfulness is eternal death. And torture. But because God loves us so much he has provided a way we can escape that just punishment. All we have to do is repent and believe in him. Indeed, he commands us to do so. But because we are so utterly, miserably, wickedly sinful, we can’t repent and be saved, even though God has commanded us to do so - unless by his sovereign grace he gives us the power to do so.
The clear Biblical evidence is that God only gives his sovereign saving grace to some people, leaving the others to die forever in their sins. This is perfectly just and fair, because those people are wicked and stupid to boot, and they deserve to die. God is sovereign, and he is under no obligation to save them from their wickedness.
Some other stupid people (they’re sometimes called Arminians) think that makes God look bad, makes him look like a monster, in fact. But boy are they wrong. Far from making God look bad, his throwing unrepentant sinners into hell forever is actually a demonstration of his glory. It’s obvious that a mighty and loving God needs to burn a few billion sinners forever to show his elect just what a big hearted guy he is for saving them from the flames. After all, God is God, and as John Piper has told us, “it’s right for him to slaughter women and children anytime he pleases”.
Let us join together in prayer:
*Oh God, thank you for creating a lot of people for the express purpose of burning them in hell forever to show miserable sinners like me the awful fate you’ve rescued me from by your sovereign grace.
Boy, I’m sure glad you chose me over them, even though I am no more deserving of your grace than they are.
Please can I have a Ferrari for my next birthday. And a new semi-automatic shotgun with some of that good double-aught buckshot, because if any bad folks try and break into my house I’m gonna spread em all over the wall like raspberry jam, even though they were only doing what you’d predestined they were going to do before they were born, the bastards.
Amen.*
And calm down my dear - it’s to be expected that a woman would not be able to understand the finer points of predestination theology with it’s manly coherence 
It is a regrettable lapse into heresy that she was allowed to ask a question in the first place 
Och well, I think I’d better book the operation for the sex change 
Good one Dick!
I haven’t watched it yet, but I gotta say, the more gentle-hearted people I meet who have been and are being tormented by this abhominable (notice I even used the ‘h’!) doctrine, the more absolutely diabolical and damnable I realize it is. Arminianism is silly and the prosperity health & wealth “gospel” is tragic, but Calvinism is nothing short of heretical wickedness. Certainly Calvinists are our Father’s children, but they need to be set free from this demon, Calvinism, and some of them the demon torments far more than others it seems. 
Cindy, I think the Gospel is nonsense because it wants you to be poor. I don’t hold to the Bible. Anybody that gives all their money away is crazy. If having money, taking care of myself and helping others is a bad thing, count me in.
Cole,
Dear friend, I don’t think you really understand the gospel. Many, many people (and especially Calvinists) also don’t. This is the gospel, as given by Jesus and by Paul:
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“You are my friends if you do whatever I tell you.” (note: He does NOT say, “Do whatever I told the rich young ruler.”)
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“The law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus has set me free from the law of sin and death.” (That’s Paul speaking.)
The law of sin and death goes like this: The good things we want to do, we don't do. Instead we do the bad things we hate. This is because we are enslaved to sin. When we identify with Jesus' death and resurrection, we die to our old master, sin, and come alive to our new master, righteousness -- We are then free from the coercion of sin, to commit sin. Yes, it takes time and growing in the Spirit for us to fully realize this freedom, but it is at this point that the bondage is broken. Sin leads to death. When we are free from sin, we are free from death -- not that we won't physically die (obviously) but that the death that comes from sin no longer has a hold on us. We are free to live by the life of Christ.
Does this make sense? You aren’t meant to read bible verses, but rather the bible. We need to remember to use our minds in reading the bible. When Jesus says to the rich young ruler, get rid of your possessions and follow me, that applies to the rich young ruler. It will only apply to YOU if Jesus says that to YOU. Notice, Jesus didn’t tell Simon and Lazarus and Martha and Mary to sell all they had and come follow Him. They were wealthy too, but Jesus wanted them to do other things. (Plus, the money probably didn’t OWN them.) Other of Jesus’ statements are more general, such as when He tells the crowd, “After this manner, pray: 'Our Father . . . '” That sort of thing does apply to us. But every word that Jesus spoke doesn’t necessarily apply to you. When He told Peter to go fishing, and to open the mouth of the first fish he caught, and he’d find a piece of money in it – then to go pay the Temple tax for the two of them . . . I know you don’t think that applies to you. (Unless He tells YOU to do something like that.) We have to pay attention to these things if we’re to understand scripture correctly.
But if you’re not at that point right now, where you can objectively read scripture, then by all means lay it aside until you feel healthier and better able to discern things.
Love, Cindy
Cinders
I do believe you’ve finally seen the light 
. The devil I don’t believe in rubs his hands together with glee every time he ensnares another victim into the vicious web of Calvinism. That’s another life blighted, he thinks to himself, another walking advert for atheism. Let us continue to denounce that doctrine of devils for the wicked blasphemy that it is, and offer our love and support to those who have been duped into believing it.
Cheers
Johnny
Cole
Old bean, I think you’re in danger or throwing the baby out with the bathwater here . The Gospel doesn’t want everybody to be poor, it wants everybody to be rich - rich in love, rich in joy, rich in all God’s good gifts. Sure, if you’re rich in material, human terms it’s beholden on you to use your money wisely, and that would include using it to help others where you can. But nowhere in the Bible do I see Jesus saying he wants us all to be poor.
Keep smiling matey
Johnny
Thank you Cindy,
I see your point. And I’m pretty healthy right now, just unlear about the Bible. That’s all. It happens to a lot of healthy people.
Thanks Johnny my man!
MacArthur restated her question as, “Why would God command men everywhere to repent if they cann’t unless he aids them?” And then simply said, “I don’t know why, but that’s the way it is.” So do they answer her question, (I agree) Nope.