i personally feel the OT supports UR the most, (God may be angry at sin, but only for the moment it takes to destroy it, then He will resurrect and restore everyone He has previously been angry with…that’s ooverwhelmingly what i get from the OT)
i feel the NT shows us how Christ makes that possible, and tells us how we ought to live. it provides some new perspectives, but builds on the OT.
The same reason you did Revival. The conviction and leading of the Holy Spirit by the grace and faith of Christ alone.
Well God must be one lousy evangelist, Lefein, because everyone who has ever been in Hell will be found not written in the BOL and thrown into the LOF in Rev 20:10-15. 
God is a lousy evangelist because God is a perfect physician? Healing every man he has saved by remedial fire, burning away the man’s dross, the man’s sins, and all the things that make the man evil? By burning away the Death in the man, so that he becomes one of the living, so that he is one of those in the Book of Life?
I really don’t see how God in being the perfect healer, somehow manages to make him a lousy evangelist…
Whats wrong with Hell’s fire for this remedial purpose? Is it not hot enough? 
You’d make fun of the Healing God by making fun of that with which he mercifully heals the sick in need of a physician?
“O’ poor man, if only you knew the Merciful God…”
What ever “Hell” (Hades) is, I can be sure at least that the presence of the Lamb (the Lake of Fire) is remedial and just.
Amen. 
I guess 4,000 degrees of fire in Hell is not good enough for God for remedial purposes. He needs the hotter fire in the LOF.
I don’t suspect you’ve ever prayed “Help me Lord, teach me how to be patient” have you? If you have ever had to learn Patience under Master God…you’d understand why God doesn’t put heat upon man that he cannot handle. You’d understand why God doesn’t put the silver in a heat that will destroy the silver when God’s purpose is to get rid of the dross.
The Perfect Physician doesn’t use a sledge hammer and a hacksaw to check for reflexes and do fine, intricate surgery.
So, I guess God does need a double dose of fire for His remedial puposes according to you, Lefein. 4000 degrees of fire wasn’t hot enough.
I’m getting to the root of your sarcastic acts of making fun of God’s merciful justice, by telling you why God is patient and takes time with his remedial work; whether or not “Hell” is a fiery place or not, compared to the Lake of Fire.
However, I’m sure you’d like to put your deed where your speech is. After all, faith without action is dead…
Ask the Lord for Patience…ask him here, give your prayer in your next response on this thread, ask for Patience, and ask for Patience that is on par with the “single dip dosage” of fire that you feel ought be the way God works his remedial work.
I’m sure that would be a far better thing to do instead of saying “4000 degrees of fire wasn’t hot enough ”.
I bare the challenge to you publicly, before all the Cloud of Witnesses.
My apologies, I was using Adam as a metaphor for the old man. Something which I am now going to cease using because it is confusing.
Well, I would say that salvation is predominantly salvation from sin in this life, so yes, the Hebrews were saved. But I would also say that the Ancient Hebrews were “eternally” saved in their hopeful faith of Yahweh to provide their Messiah. And that the Ancient Hebrews were given prevenient grace to do so. But I’m not sure. Good point. I shall have to look into this. My theology is certainly not exhaustive! Especially regarding the Hebrew scriptures.
Yes, I would affirm total depravity. This does not mean that everyone is as hopelessly wicked as they possibly could be, but that wickedness has polluted every faculty we have, totally mars every action we do and places us in a general state of hatred towards Yahweh. This does not mean we have lost our Image of God.
Because I’m a self-determinist I think that extraneous factors cannot be the cause of our choices. There are no causes over my will, there are only influences (powerful though they may be). I also think that Yahweh has graciously provided us all sufficiently to accept His offer of salvation.
How can eschatological prophecy be irrelevant to what people may or may not do in the eschaton? 
I think this presumes our society has evolved into a greater, more benevolent state than before (and that, largely independent of God). This is probably difficult to defend on Christian and objective grounds, and well, to be perfectly honest, seems to be cultural arrogance.
I believe the Bible to be infallible on matters of theology, faith and practice. But I agree that any inerrancy on historical or scientific matters is questionable. But I’m not going to throw out passages because I find them uncomfortable or puzzling – I’m going to try and understand them. I didn’t throw out Genesis because of science, and I haven’t forced it to teach science. I’m trying to understand what it meant to its original audience.
I thought my musings have been pretty reasonable, fair and softly spoken, but you seem to have responded quite defensively – laughing at my thoughts, claiming my cited verses have been irrelevant, and so forth. If my positions have offended you then I apologize, and think it best we do not engage in further discussion.
I’m sorry. I’m positively allergic to some of the things you’ve said here.
I think we have vastly different views on topics like free will, depravity, and good vs evil; I am going to agree with ending this discussion, as well.