You obviously don’t understand that you completely undermine the point of your thread every time you acknowledge that some people were saved by Christ from hades post-mortem. But I’m going to try to explain this again so it is better understood.
How many righteous people died in the Flood according to Peter? None. Peter says Christ preached to those imprisoned in hades who were disobedient, and you’re rather stubbornly ignoring that portion of what he says in order to make out that he was only talking about people in the non-punishment part of hades.
Since I do understand and account for that, and you haven’t done so yet, you are in less than no position to try to teach me or anyone else what 1 Peter is supposed to really mean.
Since I have always understood and agreed with this, including previously in this thread, your attempt at claiming I don’t fully understand this is (once again) utterly pointless.
Which are people Peter isn’t talking about.
When Gentiles who do not have the Law do by nature the things of the law, they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness, and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them. That was true then (or there could have been no distinction between righteous Noah and those who died in their stubbornness and were imprisoned in hades, who are the people Peter is explicitly talking about), and it will be true in the day of the Lord to come before the judgment seat of Christ (per Rom 2).
Including, as you have said before (and as I agreed), the only people you think were saved by Christ post-mortem in His descent into hades. (Who were not imprisoned due to stubborn disobedience but who went to the non-punishment portion of hades.)
But elsewhere (including in this thread) you vociferously insist that no one who dies with a sin nature can be saved post-mortem. You have to do that in order to keep from even allowing the possibility that reconciliation is extended to people post-mortem, whether in any “now” before judgment, or after judgment.
(I know you meant “except”, btw.)
Which I have also agreed, including in this thread, and have always fully understood. So once again your attempt to “explain” this to me as though I don’t “fully understand” how people are saved, including before the cross, is utterly pointless.
Still agreeing, still have always said this and fully understood this, too.
That you consider the blessed righteous in paradise to be “captives” is rather self-contradictive (and Paul in Ephesians doesn’t specify them as the blessed righteous in paradise, so he cannot be accused of a similar self-contradiction); but I definitely agree (including above in this thread) that Christ led the blessed righteous in paradise out of hades, and that He led captivity captive (including in the sense of a multitude of captives to heaven–which obviously I believe even more strongly and fully than you do!)
Actually I agree with both; but I don’t have to believe that Christ emptied sheol/hades of the wicked to believe He brought some of them out, too, from their captivity to Satan.
Which happens to be exactly the opposite of what Peter says. He says Christ preached to the dead that they may live in the spirit, paralleling preaching this with our evangelization now (and paralleling “the dead” with those currently impenitent sinners who try to lead Christians back into the same excesses), and specifies that he’s talking about those who had been imprisoned for disobedience.
I fully agree that the unrepentant remained and still remain in hades.
So once again your explanation leaves out the only point of actual contention between us on this topic, namely Peter’s specification that he’s talking about sinners imprisoned in hades for their disobedience and impenitence. But that point of contention is so important that you have to pretend Peter said he was only talking about the blessed righteous in paradise instead.
Yes: thanks to Jesus bringing it to them either way; even bringing it to them post-mortem in hades.
The pre-cross process was for them to receive it thanks to Jesus Christ; the post-cross process was (and is, and shall be) for them to receive it thanks to Jesus Christ. That the (relatively) righteous dead no longer inhabit the paradise of hades is the main difference; but Peter wasn’t talking about those.
(That you can wink or smirk about the idea of lost people never receiving spiritual life, shows the true depth of your concern and love for lost people, btw. But that’s another thread.)
Aside from Luke 16 never saying they have no chance to get out ever, Luke 16 is a pre-cross situation, not a post-cross. And 1 Peter, which are the verses you were supposed to be discussing and explaining (but which you have not-surprisingly largely ignored), indicates those in the non-paradise portion of hades have hope in Jesus to get out.
Except for the people you yourself acknowledge leave hades after being evangelized by God.
But you have to keep putting it in such an absolute negative way because you aren’t comfortable even with that much post-mortem evangelism and salvation.
1 Peter still counts against (if not totally destroys) your theory about reconciliation not being extended to people in hell, btw. Whether you acknowledge this or not won’t change the truth, Aaron.