And all things have been given into the hand of the Son. From which they will never be taken out.
But of course not everything is cooperating with the Son yet. If souls keep trying to jump out of His hand into death, and He squeezes hard to keep them from reaching the furthest end that they’re demanding to have…
There is, however, another way to read that supplication; one that comports better with the Son being the only way to the Father.
Let us suppose I am one of the ‘elect’. Question: can I functionally bypass the Son (or even the Spirit) and pray to the Father directly without going through the other Persons? I don’t mean, can I try doing this in my ignorance and actually reach the Father while being ignorant that I am being mediated by the Spirit and the Son. I mean, if I reach the Father, have I ever done so outside or around the constant interpersonal relationship and communication between the Persons of the Trinity?
I’m thinking that if orthodox trinitarianism is true (and I’m a hyper-orthodox apologist, btw ), then the answer to this question is no. Consequently, those who (thanks to God’s grace at any given time) wish to seek the Father, one way or another, whether in ignorance or in knowledge, must be mediated by the Son, Who makes supplication for us.
Certainly the Son doesn’t make supplication against the will of the Father (despite some sloppy Christian theology sometimes ); but the verse you presented also fits cleanly into an orthodox situation where the Son does not pretend that those who are, at the moment, not seeking God are seeking God. Until they repent and seek the Father, the Son does not intercede for them. The Son and the Spirit do however persistently seek to bring the unrepentant to repentance, the first step of which must be the conviction of sin.
Notice that toward the end of the chapter, Jesus is praying that the “world” will know the Father does send the Son on mission; and the gathering language used in v 21 is applied to the widest possible scope elsewhere in the NT (1 Cor 15:24-28 for example) and the OT (Is 45:20-25 for example–a conclusion in favor of which earlier in the chapter God is remonstrating against those who would believe that God will abandon the punished to death and destruction, in words that are quoted by St. Paul in chp 9: who are you to answer back to God * concerning that which He has created, O man?! Is 45 is one of those many ‘few’ portions of scripture that state pretty much straight out what God’s intentions, scope and expectations are of salvation from sin. )
Actually, it even says that straight out in a couple of places (GosMark being one of them, when Jesus is visiting His hometown and can do few works of power there due to their unbelief, which He marvels at.)
I think He wasn’t denying them knowledge of right and wrong at all. He was only forbidding them to get it by rebellion against Him. Had they chosen to trust Him, they would have gotten the knowledge the other, better way.
Quite agreed. *