The Evangelical Universalist Forum

Will people receive different rewards in heaven?

I believe that all will eventually be reconciled to God and come into his presence. Is there any chance that people will receive different rewards in heaven based upon what they did in this life? Or will everyone be rewarded the same? Will the size of our crowns be different?

Some apply the following passage to two different classes of rewards in the afterlife:

For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— each one’s work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire. (1 Cor 13:11-15)

Gold, silver, and precious stones can go through a fire without being consumed. So those who build on the foundation in that way will be rewarded. But fire will consume wood, hay, and straw. So those who build with those materials will suffer loss of reward, although they themselves will be saved.

On the other hand, the follow passage may indicate that disciples (Jesus calls all three “servants”) may receive three different types of correction in the afterlife. Jesus explained one of his parables as follows:

*And the Lord said, “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom his master will set over his household, to give them their portion of food at the proper time? Blessed is that servant whom his master will find so doing when he comes. Truly, I say to you, he will set him over all his possessions.

But if that servant says to himself, ‘My master is delayed in coming,’ and begins to beat the male and female servants, and to eat and drink and get drunk, the master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know, and will cut him in pieces and put him with the unfaithful.

And that servant who knew his master’s will but did not get ready or act according to his will, will receive a severe beating.

But the one who did not know, and did what deserved a beating, will receive a light beating.

Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more. (Luke 12:42-48)*

How about Matthew 20 and the workers in the vineyard?

You know the story about the guys that get hired at different times and the ones who work all day complain they get paid the same as the ones who work an hour.

IMVHO :unamused: … I don’t believe there is any greater or lesser in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Each in his own order (1 Cor 15), to be grown up into the fullness of the head. I believe all will end in the same place as we are one body, the whole human race, (and possibly all the created order). Whether that is through a corrective fire, or through a reckoning, or a borg like upload of all human interaction and outcomes, i.e. seeing sin and its effects. We will all be one with the head of the body, a new temple jointly fitted together.

On the way to that point is there differing “levels”, or status? Possibly.?? I see the end and its beautiful. The grand resurrection of humanity when the daystar arises in our hearts and the woven covering, the matrix of death is removed forever (Isa 25) and the Lord will wipe away all tears from all faces, and have the banquet of the lamb.

I think what my apotheosis showed that all will receive a different reward when entering the cosmic consciousness that we have been calling God.

Jesus was clear that heavenly enlightenment was all about our thinking process and what we knew.

We all think differently and all have different lessons to learn as we transit into the Godhead. The pleasure and pain of that transition will be somewhat different for all.

Enlightenment and reaching heaven is for some will not be a big deal. For others, it will be quite painful.
It all depends on how much self-correcting one has to do to one’s self. I say one’s self because part of that transition into the Godhead includes a melding, if you will, into all other consciousness’ already there. You, with the help of all are the one to correct your thinking.

You, not God, gives you your reward or pain of self-chastisement. I gleaned that the source of that chastisement was myself. I could be wrong though as it is a traumatic experience.

Jesus said.
For where the mind is there is the treasure. The reward is all in the thinking.
I hope no one expected 72 virgins.

Regards
DL

Close to accurate I think. In a cosmic consciousness all end up equal.
Science may have found the same Godhead I did. Our systems never go to the supernatural and the Godhead, I hope, is just our next evolutionary step.

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Regards
DL

I believe that the Parable of the Talents (Matt. 25:14-30), in which one faithful servant receives 5 and eventually 6 additional talents, and another faithful servant receives 2 additional talents, suggests that the answer is Yes.

Let me quote you what Gnostic Christianity has written in terms of equality.

gnosis.org/library/ephip.htm

On Righteousness

The righteousness of God is a kind of sharing along with equality. There is equality in the heaven which is stretched out in all directions and contains the entire earth in its circle. The night reveals all the stars equally.

Quest_for_truth. You seem to think that the demographic pyramid in heaven is a hierarchical one as we find here on earth. Somewhat like an actual pyramid. Look at the one of any country.

Heaven could not be so as then God’s light, so to speak, could not touch all souls.

Heavens demographic pyramid is more like one would find in a perfect communism, if we could ever create such on earth. There are only two levels. God on the top tier and all the rest on the next. That demography would look more like a flat plane with only the one bump above it.

How else can God’s light touch all. That is the only way.

Your way, some would be denied a view of God. That would be hell for a soul. Right?

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The words above speak to the conventional view of God as above all else. In reality and based on my apotheosis, I reject my own view above.

Heaven does look like the communistic model I spoke of but without the bump or God being above the common.

God and heaven are more like an ocean and all of us are drops of water including God. In heaven, we are all equal to God as his enlightenment produces the same excellence or ideal that he is. We all remain individual in heaven, all equal and all Gods. There is no master or slave in heaven.

Regards
DL