Yes, I’m very saddened that many Christians cannot reasonably discuss issues concerning faith without resorting to anger and personal attacks. Anger is usually rooted in weakness, either weakness of character or weakness of position. Many see UR as a doctrine of demons that will keep people from coming to Christ and lessen missionary/evangelistic zeal. This fills them with fear (not faith). And we know that God does not give us a spirit of fear, but one of power, love, and reasonable thinking. Have you noticed how many traditionalists resort to illogical and personal attacks instead of dealing with the issues. It’s very sad.
That was probable me. I use my actual name on discussion boards. It helps me keep myself accountable to make sure my posts are grace-filled, love based, and logical. And I try to make them clear, concise, and compelling.
I was a Charismatic Evangelical (Armenian) in my personal theology but transdenomenational in my attitude (I accepted others as brothers in Christ though they had radically different theologies from me recognizing 1) that salvation is by grace and 2) that their confession of faith in Christ is enough for me to accept them as brothers in Christ, and 3) that I could be wrong.)
Why did I come to believe UR? It was the weight of scriptural evidence in support of UR. I started out studying the UR passages to see if in their immediate literary context there was anything that would indicate that “All” does not mean “All”. I found Rom.5:18 and Col.1:20 to be especially compelling in support of UR. Their context strongly affirms that “All” means “All”, not “some”. And then just the shear number of passages that allude to the salvation of “All” was compelling. This seemed to be a major theme, and the goal of Christ to save all the world, not just a few special people.
I found scripture in support of UR so compelling that I figured I’d best study what scripture says concerning “Hell” to counter balance, to refute UR. This glorious picture of every knee bowing in worship and every tongue ultimately coming to joyfully declare Jesus Lord was, well, just too good to believe. It was not only a radical belief, but it was condemned as false doctrine by everyone I knew.
So I set the UR passages aside and began studying about Hell. The first thing I noticed was that not one word in scripture accurately translates as Hell and thus the word Hell should not be in the Bible, not Sheol, Hades, Gehenna, or Tartaroo. This really shook me. But it was my study of what the Jews would have understood Gehenna to mean that was the tipping point, the piece of information that put me, no, PUSHED me over the edge. Gehenna did not mean “Hell”, but meant destruction, a trashed life, and was a warning of fearful but non-specific and possibly remedial judgment and punishment to come. This was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Looking back I realize that at that time subconsciously I had come to have faith that Jesus is truly savior of all - but I still wouldn’t admit it to myself much less others.
UR was making so much sence to me that it scared me so I then began studying anti-UR material in the hopes that someone would make a compelling argument from scripture in support of the traditional doctrine that Jesus fails to save most of humanity. And I purposefully avoided material in support of UR. But the more I studied such anti-UR material, the more I saw gaping holes in their arguments, misinterpretation of scripture, simple exegetical fallacies, and irrational arguments against UR. So I started talking with people about UR, people whom I respect and no one could counter the information that I had uncovered in my research, imo. I sought to study it with other believers in person and online (forums) in the hopes that someone could show me where my research was lacking, my interpretation of scripture was errant, where my logical was off, etc. But I found that most believers are not interested enough in the subject to study it, and the few that were willing to discuss it could not come up with anything to counter UR imo. And since then the opposition, rejection, false accusations, etc., I’ve faced has only served to solidify my beliefs, firm up my convictions.
Well, that’s a long answer to a short question. Thanks for asking. On the other board who were you?
Blessings,
Sherman