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How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

The philanthropist Billionaire Bloomberg is sounding great! Much better that Dave B. and Trumps attack on Social Security.

For tens of millions of older Americans, no issue facing the candidates is more important than Social Security. Bloomberg recently said how he’d handle the challenges facing Social Security, and although he didn’t give quite as many specifics as some of his peers on the campaign trail, the plan still contemplates some significant changes.

What Bloomberg wants

Bloomberg set out a four-point plan for Social Security:

  • Consider options for protecting Social Security’s finances as well as the benefits of its neediest participants.
  • Provide better minimum benefits for low-income retirees.
  • Change the formula for calculating cost-of-living adjustments (COLAs).
  • Fix other problems within the Social Security program.

We’ll look at these four points in more detail below.

1. Saving Social Security

The Bloomberg plan chooses not to take an alarmist view of Social Security’s finances, noting that even after Social Security trust funds run out of money around 2035, the program will still be able to pay out 75% of scheduled benefits from payroll taxes. Yet the presidential candidate still believes it’s important to strengthen the program financially and ensure that those who need Social Security the most will still be able to get full benefits.

Beyond those general sentiments, though, Bloomberg doesn’t go into any detail on exactly how he would look to preserve and strengthen Social Security. For instance, you won’t find anything in his proposal that explicitly suggests boosting payroll taxes to increase revenue for the program. Indeed, his use of the word “consider” seems to be less than a full commitment toward necessarily taking any action with respect to Social Security’s financial condition.

2. Minimum benefits for low-income seniors

Bloomberg is critical of the current Supplemental Security Income (SSI) system, which provides additional monthly benefits for low-income retirees. A complicated set of eligibility criteria and payment calculations makes SSI difficult to navigate and use.

Instead, Bloomberg would put together a new minimum benefit designed to help about 10% of current recipients get higher payments. His hope is that the new plan would better address the problems that low-wage earners currently have staying out of poverty in retirement.

3. Make COLAs bigger

The clearest commitment regarding Social Security that Bloomberg makes in his proposal is to boost the way that cost-of-living adjustments are made. Currently, COLAs are tied to a measure of inflation that’s designed to track the costs that urban wage earners face. As many have pointed out, the particular basket of goods and services that this inflation measure follows doesn’t accurately reflect the much different needs that older Americans have.

Bloomberg would instead look more closely at the costs that affect seniors the most – especially healthcare. Although he doesn’t specifically discuss using the CPI-E measure of inflation for the elderly, Bloomberg’s proposed adjustment would likely end up in a similar place as a switch to CPI-E would.

4. Fix other Social Security problems

Finally, Bloomberg’s plan looks at a group of catchall issues regarding Social Security. He would look for ways to protect family caregivers from the fact that their years of unpaid service produce much lower Social Security benefits than those doing similar work for pay. Bloomberg would also look at potential ways to ease the financial shock of the death of a spouse, given that under the current system, surviving spouses can suffer a huge cut in their household income.

More to come on Social Security

Social Security is a tough political issue to handle, and Bloomberg isn’t alone in being careful about not wanting to give too many specifics. Yet with so many voters watching closely to see which candidate will protect their Social Security the best, Bloomberg might want to give more details as his campaign goes on in order to provide more complete answers to these tough questions.

The Choice Isn’t Between Capitalism or Socialism

All countries practice a mix of both, and the U.S. isn’t the free-market leader some might think.

The spirited online debates about socialism and capitalism are, therefore, mostly useless. They ignore and obscure the multiple dimensions of policy, as well as changes over time, and thus make it harder rather than easier to think about concrete ways to fix the problems in the U.S. system. It would be helpful to have a new consensus terminology to describe the economic systems that various industrialized countries – the U.S., France, Japan, China, and the countries of Scandinavia – have developed over the last three decades. But one thing is for certain – the dichotomy of socialism versus capitalism, inherited from the ideological battles of the past two centuries, is badly out of date.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-07-23/the-choice-isn-t-between-capitalism-or-socialism

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What else is new in politics? :crazy_face:


The evangelicals that support Trump come from TV evangelists or Trumpvangelicals. Here’s evangelicals against Trump:

Tucker:
" So what is Mike Bloomberg running on? That’s a trick question, actually. Bloomberg isn’t running on anything. Not because he doesn’t have ideas – he’s got plenty of ideas, and some of them are far outside the American mainstream.

But Bloomberg doesn’t think any of that matters. He’s not running on ideas. He’s not trying to convince voters of anything. He’s not making arguments or working to change their minds on policies they care about.

He is trying to buy them and hence, the presidency. It’s the single most cynical political campaign ever run in this country. Bloomberg is trying to subvert our democracy with cash, and he is going all-in to do it.

According to the latest numbers, Bloomberg has spent more than $417 million on advertising so far in this race. His nearest rival, Bernie Sanders, has spent $40 million. That’s less than a tenth."

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-bloomberg-is-trying-to-buy-the-presidency

Sanders is taking money from the poor. Bloomberg is paying his own way. Check out his philanthropy. He has vowed not to take money from anyone and he shouldn’t. He’s all the better for it.

Yes, Donald Trump is a billionaire. Illinois governor J. B. Pritzker, is a billionaire. Mike Bloomberg is a billionaire. But ALL were successful becoming billionaires, by their own efforts. I don’t mind billionaires. Let’s see what they can do. :crazy_face:

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You don’t feel the Bern?

We are all billionaires in Christ!

I think before it’s over Trump will put forward his universal healthcare. Everyone will be covered. Trumps universal healthcare isn’t the same as socialized medicine. The presumption among conservatives is that universal health care is the same as socialized medicine provided exclusively by the government. But it’s not. Universal care simply means everybody has it. Coverage can come from the public or private sector, or a mix of both. Since the United States already has robust health systems in both the public and private sector, a hybrid system built on the best of both would probably work best. It would be partly socialized and partly free-market, as it is now.

Now this is a good question. :crazy_face:

Here’s another interesting, BBC perspective: :crazy_face:


Trump Promises ‘Phenomenal’ Health Care Plan Soon

Later in the interview, Trump returned to the point, saying that “people hate Obamacare. It’s too expensive, it’s not good, but if we win the House, we win the Senate, we win the presidency. You’re going have the greatest healthcare that anybody’s ever had.”

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-promises-phenomenal-health-care-220724497.html

Trumps Universal Healthcare, in his book “The America We Deserve” isn’t the same as socialized medicine. What Trump has criticized in the past is the socialized “Universal Healthcare” of the Democrats.

Trump’s unwitting legacy could be universal health coverage

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-unwitting-legacy-universal-health-coverage-191235900.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=fb

Right now Trump’s just been trying to operate under Obama’s plans. I’m thinking once that’s out he will put this into effect:

Here’s the excerpt from Trump’s book: The America We Deserve

I would impose a one-time , 14.25% tax on individuals and trusts with a net worth over $10 million. That would raise $5.7 trillion in new revenue, which we would use to pay off the entire national debt. We would save $200 billion in interest payments, which would allow us to cut taxes on middle-class working families by $100 billion a year or $1 trillion over ten years. We could use the rest of the savings – $100 billion – to bolster the Social Security Trust Fund. By 2030, we [will have] put $3 trillion into the trust Fund, which would make it solvent into the next century.

Everyone that Trump pardoned, might be innocent. :crazy_face:

You have to first get Obama’s economics and health care out of there before Trump can even start his. He hasn’t failed to keep his promises. He hasn’t put his plans in there yet. He’s been operating under Obama’s plans and adjusting them to fit. The second term we will see Trump’s economy and health care plans. I think he will keep his promises. I could be wrong though.

It takes a term to get the old (Obama) health care and economics removed. Once that is removed Trump will put his plan in. You can’t expect that to happen in 4 years.

Just ordered me some

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JQYSQJN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Donald Trump 4 Gold Coin Set, 45th 1st Term Presidential Collector’s Edition, Commemorative Gold Plated Replica Coins 2017-2018 - 2019-2020, Diamond Display

Another interesting story from today’s Patheos Catholic newsletter. :crazy_face: