The Evangelical Universalist Forum

How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

More BBC hightlights. :crazy_face:

And in the science news. :crazy_face:

And on the political front. :crazy_face:

Trump keeps promising a tax cut for the middle class when election times come around but it never comes. He’s also been promising to reveal healthcare plan in one month two months etc. etc. but it never happens. He’s been promising universal healthcare in the beginning. I think he may be full of it. How Dave B. can go on praising him is retarded. He has an intense hatred towards the poor minorities. He casts them all as being evil and corrupt to justify his hatred. If they’re evil they don’t deserve anything etc. etc. He hates God’s children and therefore hates Christ. Christ was for the poor outcasts of society. It’s why the lawmakers hated him. A tax collector! An alcoholic! A glutton! Why surely Jesus was one of these because he tried to help the outsiders! He was evil! Let Him die!

Time for the big debate! :crazy_face:

What leading evangelicals do you know of that support Trump? There are none. It’s the TV evangelists that are supporting him with their millions. They are the religious right. Here’s an article:

Evangelical leaders, Christian leaders, the Religious Right, TV evangelists: Call them what you will. So many of them have lost all claim to the high road. They have not only lost their integrity and honesty, many of them are nothing more than self-aggrandizing spiritual prostitutes. They have become little more than pandering, groveling, bootlicking toadies for political potentates—one political potentate in particular: President Donald Trump.

https://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Articles/tabid/109/ID/3872/Evangelicals-Blind-Idolatry-Of-Donald-Trump-Continues-Unabated.aspx

Trump’s Evangelical supporters are of the “health and wealth gospel” variety. They are, after all, the least likely to be turned off by brazen displays of wealth.

While Dobson characterized Trump at the time as a “baby Christian,” he seemed more circumspect about the New York real estate mogul’s newfound faith in a statement released Monday to the Christian publication Charisma News.

“Only the Lord knows the condition of a person’s heart. I can only tell you what I’ve heard,” Dobson said. “First, Trump appears to be tender to things of the Spirit. I also hear that Paula White has known Trump for years and that she personally led him to Christ.”

The health wealth and prosperity tv preacher Paula White is heard to be the one who led Trump to Christ. She is his spiritual advisor.

Here is an important distinction. And from what I’ve been able to observe, true as well:

Putting aside the unpleasant personalities and pointless squabbles that the Democrat presidential candidates showed America on Wednesday night in Nevada, what is important is that they shared with us their vision for an American future. They see America as a dark, hate-filled dystopian country that can be saved only if a government under their care collects as much money as possible from its citizens and spreads it around to people whose votes they want.

If you cast your mind back to 2016, Trump did not speak to different racial or economic constituencies. He spoke to all Americans. His vision for America included secure borders, lower taxes, fewer regulations, strong national security, and a withdrawal from the Wilsonian ideal of America as the world’s policemen. To the extent Democrats claimed that tTrump was a racist, it was because they interpolated racism into his words where none existed.

Trump continues to govern for all Americans. Sure, he boasts about low black unemployment, but his point is always that a rising tide lives all boats — and that he is the tide, and all Americans, regardless of race, color, creed, sex, sexual orientation, etc., are the boats. His Keep America Great rallies continue to speak to everyone. He sees America as a shining jewel that can become even bigger and brighter in his next term.

The Democrat candidates see America differently. It’s an impoverished wreck. Its air and water are filthy as wicked industrialists pump oil out of the ground with no benefit to anything but their bank accounts. Medical care in America is so awful that one has visions of bodies in the street, à la the scenes in Wuhan, China (a place in which socialized medicine isn’t doing very well). Pharmacy companies make wicked profits, not for the benefit of shareholders or to provide funds for research and development, but simply to exploit Americans. College students are begging on the streets thanks to the unbearable version of the debt they voluntarily assumed for their advanced queer/feminist puppetry degrees. And minorities and women suffer in all ways possible from every policy.

All of the candidates, no matter the topic, insisted that they would take money from the rich and, under their aegis, spend it in ways that would save the economy, save the environment, save medical care, and fund endless wonderful programs, from pre-kindergarten childcare to free college to free drugs. Only Bloomberg pulled back from this socialist dream (a dream common to all the others, whether they want Bernie’s instant socialism or Buttigieg’s and Klobuchar’s slower, Fabian-style socialism).

Only once did the subject of what socialism really is creep out, and that’s when Bloomberg, having listened to Bernie’s economic ideas, shot back, “We’re not going to throw out capitalism. We tried that. Other countries tried that. It was called communism, and it just didn’t work.”

Bernie called the remark a cheap shot and insisted that he was just trying to turn America into Denmark. That, in its turn, was a cheap trick. Throughout his career, when Bernie got the chance to travel, he didn’t travel to Denmark, Sweden, or England, countries that have small populations, were once culturally homogeneous, and had low defense costs because America footed the bill during the Cold War. Instead, given the chance, Bernie rushed off to the Soviet Union (which he raved about), Cuba, and Nicaragua (to celebrate the Sandinistas’ sixth anniversary) — all communist police states.

Aside from a shared belief that government is the best repository for wealth earned by hard work and innovation, after which government should decide how to spend it, the candidates all had one other thing in common: they loathe Trump. To them, he is the embodiment of everything that is evil. It’s imperative that one of them make it to the White House in order to end the Trump presidency.

Despite all the hate, one thing was missing from the debate: Trump’s actual policies. Except for complaining about Trump’s withdrawal from the Paris Accord, none of the candidates justified their hatred. Trump is no longer a president with policies. He is a bogeyman who lives in their heads, a monstrous creature whose mere existence despoils the world. They claim that he’s a fraud, as if he hasn’t already proven himself to the American people over the past three years.

In that time, Trump has fended off every partisan political attack leveled against him while simultaneously presiding over an extraordinary economy, making beneficial trade deals, bringing China to heel, defeating ISIS on the battlefield, securing our southern border, and generally proving that there’s nothing fake about his leadership and managerial abilities. You may not like the way in which he’s used those abilities, but they are very real.

If the Democrat debate had to be summed up in one sentence, it would be, “America’s a disaster and Trump is really evil, so we need to take all your money and spend it in ways that we super-duper promise you will make things better.”

After the Democratic debate it looks like Trump will serve a second term. I guess since his spiritual adviser is the TV health, wealth, and prosperity preacher Paula White I’m going to look into her teachings and see what she has to say. Here’s amazon:

Early in Paula’s life, she didn’t know God, but there was always a pull to something greater. Once she prayed for salvation at the age of eighteen, Paula finally understood the meaning of grace and purpose, and realized God had been taking care of her the whole time.

Paula shares her journey of faith in Something Greater, what she calls “a love letter to God from a messed up Mississippi girl.” She details feeling led to a higher calling as a child, how she came to serve others as a female pastor, and what led to being asked to become spiritual advisor to President Donald Trump.

Something Greater encourages readers to know and understand the “something greater” that is in all of them, and will teach them how to cling to Jesus Christ in times of need and abundance.

https://www.amazon.com/Something-Greater-Finding-Triumph-Trials/dp/1546033475/ref=sr_1_1?crid=34ITC3RFEE5GE&keywords=paula+white+books&qid=1582221652&sprefix=paula+white%2Caps%2C326&sr=8-1

Pastor Paula’s Heart For The Hurting

Her Global Humanitarian Mission

Pastor Paula White-Cain began ministering in the inner cities of Washington, D.C., in the late 1980’s and in addition to being the founder of Paula White Ministries, a global media ministry that has touched the lives of hundreds of millions of people, Pastor Paula is also a humanitarian leader. Her ministries have provided hundreds-of-thousands of pounds of food to the needy in the United States and tens-of-millions of dollars in humanitarian assistance to the needy around the world. Partner with Paula today and be a part of her global mission to “help the least of these” in need for Jesus Christ…

Some sports news from a REAL news source. :wink:

I’ve been looking at Trumps Spiritual advisor, Prosperity TV preacher Paula White. I ABOMINATE!! the prosperity Gospel. Listen to the evangelical Christian John Piper on the health, wealth, and prosperity gospel. If Paula White is this nations spiritual advisor we are in trouble.

Also that he is the wind beneath our wings, and the reason for the season :wink:

Is this part of Trump’s “make American great again”? :crazy_face:

But maybe it’s affecting, the most hardened criminals. :crazy_face:

What else is new with Trump? :crazy_face:


And Trump doesn’t like this year’s, South Korean Oscar winner. :crazy_face:

Responding to the president’s criticism, Parasite distributor Neon tweeted: “Understandable, he can’t read.”

Christianity In Crisis: The 21st Century

https://www.amazon.com/Christianity-Crisis-Century-Hank-Hanegraaff/dp/0849964598/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1AURW36JWPDQ7&keywords=christianity+in+crisis+21st+century+hank+hanegraaff&qid=1582291079&sprefix=christianity+in+crisis%2Caps%2C183&sr=8-1

These are not obscure teachers that Hanegraaff unmasks. We know their names. We have seen their faces, sat in their churches, and heard them shamelessly preach and promote the false pretexts of a give-to-get gospel. They are virtual rock stars who command the attention of presidential candidates and media moguls. Through make-believe miracles, urban legends, counterfeit Christs, and twisted theological reasoning, they peddle an occult brand of metaphysics that continues to shipwreck the faith of millions around the globe:

“God cannot do anything in this earthly realm unless we give Him permission.”

“Keep saying it—‘I have equality with God’—talk yourself into it.”

“Being poor is a sin.”

“The Jews were not rejecting Jesus as Messiah; it was Jesus who was refusing to be the Messiah to the Jews!”

“You create your own world the same way God creates His. He speaks, and things happen; you speak, and they happen.”

Christianity in Crisis: 21st Century exposes darkness to light, pointing us back to a Christianity centered in Christ.

From the Preface:

“Having lost the ability to think biblically, postmodern Christians are being transformed from cultural change agents and initiators into cultural conformists and imitators. Pop culture beckons, and postmodern Christians have taken the bait. As a result, the biblical model of faith has given way to an increasingly bizarre array of fads and formulas.”

Millions desperate for hope and solutions are enticed by the promise of the prosperity gospel - that God will do whatever they need with just a little faith and a financial gift. All the while, prosperity preachers exploit the poor and the needy to stockpile their riches. What can followers of the true gospel do to combat the deception?

Through a remarkable and fascinating journey, Costi Hinn went from a next-generation prosperity preacher to the first to abandon the family faith and share the true gospel. Nephew of the world-famous televangelist, Benny Hinn, Costi had a front-row seat to the inner workings and theology of the prosperity gospel. But as Costi’s faith deepened, so did his questions about prosperity teaching. As the deceptions in his past were exposed, Costi came face to face with the hypocrisy and devastation caused by his belief system, and the overwhelming truth about the real Jesus Christ.

This captivating look into the daily lives of one of the world’s leading prosperity dynasties offers a thoughtful perspective on the perils of greed, the power of the true gospel, and hope for the future of the global church. Through real-life stories, Costi challenges and equips readers to be living lights pointing the way to the true gospel and the saving grace of Christ. God, Greed, and the (Prosperity) Gospel will bolster your faith and encourage your own journey toward the Truth.

https://www.amazon.com/God-Greed-Prosperity-Gospel-Overwhelms/dp/0310355273/ref=pd_sbs_14_3/139-0065488-9031314?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0310355273&pd_rd_r=2dede662-9ca7-4521-ba29-c0969fb18026&pd_rd_w=ZGNWf&pd_rd_wg=N0jiK&pf_rd_p=7cd8f929-4345-4bf2-a554-7d7588b3dd5f&pf_rd_r=QX4VYHH98C5Y54PN3G39&psc=1&refRID=QX4VYHH98C5Y54PN3G39