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How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

And Ryan, the Republican speaker of the house, said he has yet to see the evidence. :wink:

In the meantime, the news has said that sales for the novel 1984 are way up. :wink:

Would Hillary and her supporters be whining about Winning the electoral votes and losing the popular vote. No, she would not. She got out-smarted.

Lest we forget what the Left is like: there are 2 people trying to become head of the DNC:

Here’s one from a speech today, I think:
However, Boynton Brown took it a step further and said her role as a white person includes shutting other white people down.

“My job is to listen and be a voice, and my job is to shut other white people down when they want to interrupt. My job is to shut other white people down when they want to say ‘Oh no I’m not prejudiced, I’m a Democrat, I’m accepting,’” she said.

“My job is to make sure that they get that they have privilege and until we shut our mouths and we listen to those people who don’t and we lift our people up so that we all have equity in this country … we’re not going to break through this,” she said.

“This is not just rhetoric,” Boynton Brown said. “This is a matter of life and death.

And another: Keith Ellison: there is so much information about his actual support of Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam, and so much of his Jew-hating racist rhetoric, that I’ll just link you there. frontpagemag.com/fpm/264848/ … seph-klein

These are the Lefties that are going to run the Democratic party. Is Trump really that bad?

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Trump has been “explaining” why Clinton received millions of votes more than he did. Speaking again the first thought that came to mind, he claimed that 3 to 5 million immigrants voted illegally. The evidence for this, of course, is zilch.

In many liberal states effectively if you have a drivers license, you can vote. So in CA you may have 1.5 mill illegal aliens with drivers licenses who could have voted. Nationwide it’s possible that 3 mill could have voted, I presume they would have voted 98% Democratic.

As someone who used to wear a statistical hat…And is acquainted with folks in law enforcement…I add this. Show me the evidence or data, to make the case. The same thing Republican speaker of the House Ryan, is asking for. He can’t find any “evidence”. Without evidence or data, it’s pure conjecture.

On another front, Trump is threatening to send the feds in to Chicago. Not sure what he means there.

More FBI agents, working with local law enforcement? Actually, the detectives working the Chicago crime beats, are some of the best around.
Or is he going to send in some marines and army folks, to patrol the housing projects and slum neighborhoods - where the gangs reside?

It would be nice, if he was more explicit on specifics. But since I live in the Chicago suburbs now, his proposal or offer - is most welcome.

Perhaps he might subcontract, some of these Italian “experts” to help :question: :laughing:

Yeah I think this what is popularly now called “fake news”. :open_mouth:

As someone who used to wear a statistical hat…And is acquainted with folks in law enforcement…I add this. Show me the evidence or data, to make the case. The same thing Republican speaker of the House Ryan, is asking for. He can’t find any “evidence”. Without evidence or data, it’s pure conjecture.

Until someone looks for voter fraud it’s not the kind of thing where the evidence is visible, so clearly Trump was giving his opinion although he didn’t call it that.

It would not surprise me if the 98% figure turns out to be correct. I hope the evidence can be found.

On another front, Trump is threatening to send the feds in to Chicago. Not sure what he means there.

More FBI agents, working with local law enforcement? Actually, the detectives working the Chicago crime beats, are some of the best around.

The detectives may be some of the best but when you had a Justice Dept investigate the Chicago police for over-aggressive police methods it’s predictable they pull back and be demoralized. Chicago is bearing the fruits of liberalism as is San Francisco and other cities.
Yes the feds can send in undercover agents and perhaps some other law enforcement folks.

I hope the feds do help. Chicago is another of the list of major cities ruined by long-time Democratic policy.

The fed’s brooms say “sweep up crime”, not “sweep up Democrats”. :laughing:

However, when I was in graduate school for psychology… I knew someone - from the US marshals service - Chicago area base. He was in the graduate, law enforcement program. And he did have a good idea, as we did talk. He suggested to give the gang members shooting lessons. This way, then can shoot each other - rather than innocent bystanders. :laughing:

Pope Francis to Donald Trump: Put The Poor First

christiantoday.com/article/pope.francis.to.donald.trump.put.the.poor.first/100478.htm

Pope Francis to Donald Trump: Put The Poor First

With all due respect to the Pope, Communism is forced confiscation of private property whereas Jesus spoke of voluntarily helping the poor. Also the Pope may want to ponder the fact that under Communism everyone ends up poor so there may not be “income inequality” but the reason is that there is no income for anyone.
Communists,socialists and Democrats are glad to give a man a piece of fish but they never teach him how to fish.

I didn’t vote for either. But why is it a big deal when Trump puts things together that are untruthful when Hillary has done it 1000 times more?! I don’t get the outrage. You had two possible people for president and BOTH are DEPLORABLE in their own way. What in the world were all these trump haters thinking? If Hillary won, I’d say the same thing about her. People are gonna hate. Haters gonna hate. Go on hating.

I’ll withhold judgment on that 3 million number - I’m sure it is high, but I’m really really interested to know what an investigation shows.
Why do you think the Dems are so against voter i.d.? Why would anyone be against it? For dems - they are fully aware of the benefit to their party in having either no or very loose requirements.

I don’t think their indignation passes the smell test.

What people don’t understand is most democrats in power want to keep the minorities poor, helpless victims so they can pander to the unfairness and get their votes. The actual people not in power who are democrats do not want this. Republicans in power just want corporate greed and dog eat dog ladder climbing big business. The actual people who are republicans don’t want people to suffer either, namely themselves as the expense of someone who may not put forth the effort they do. Anyhow, you are right, to be against voter Id is just silly. But, once again, they will claim it is designed to stop poor people from voting (what they really mean is illegal voters who help get them in).

Both the republican and democrat base are ignorant and that isn’t their fault. The system is designed to screw over one set of people (us vs them). That said, fiscally, I think republicans are right on. Morally? that is much more difficult to cast an opinion on… I see both morally repugnant in their own ways. Any parent can tell you that raising a spoiled rotten child just creates a spoiled rotten adult and in our entitlement society, we have a lot of people who expect things for free and blame everyone else when they don’t have it.

My peers of my generation (I am 35) constantly complain about everything. One guy took out a student loan and doesn’t think he should have to pay it back. Said it was unfair. Blames everyone else for his money problems, while he talked to his buddies about drinking every night at the bar and blowing his paycheck away. Does this mean I dislike this fella? Not at all. But if people refuse to look at themselves for change, then the blame it on others and expect society to fix them. It’s easier to blame and vote for someone else to fix your problems than tackle them yourself.

We are in big trouble, folks - according to today’s BBC article. Where is Hermano, when you need him :question: :laughing:

Mexico: We will not pay for Trump border wall

Trump’s decisions are beginning to become apparent.

Trump brings back torture

He is the Devil incarnate. He wants to torture; he wants to split up families; he wants to further enrich his friends while raping the american economy, polluting the air, devastating the landscape, and grabbing all the p*****s he possibly can. He wants what is bad for america, unlike the saintly Hillary and the far Left, who are ulfl of love and are selfless and altruistic.

and grabbing all the p*****s he possibly can.

Trump likes puppies! Then he can’t be all bad!