How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

[maintenanceman]

Most other high income countries have never had a culture of gun ownership for self defense.

And that is why they are all socialist countries.

[anon12438761]

I’m not sure that folks need an ‘excuse’ to purchase a gun. It’s a right guaranteed by the constitution. No apologies are necessary to buy one.
And you know that the people passing the sweeping new law will have their own armed guards, right? And their kids will go to schools, private ones, that are heavily guarded by armed men?

[maintenanceman]

I’m not sure that folks need an ‘excuse’ to purchase a gun. It’s a right guaranteed by the constitution. No apologies are necessary to buy one.

And to cap that the second amendment is the very thing that makes the USA great. The understanding of the right to possess firearms is a fundamental right of US citizens.

[Invernessian]

I don’t think I can buy a gun here in Canada. That doesn’t concern me. What does concern me is the taking away of a parent’s right - and responsibility - to discipline their children.

[maintenanceman]

What schools politicians send their kids to doesn’t concern me. What concerns me is people getting murdered. As long as the US has such loose gun laws, more people are going to be murdered than there otherwise would. Guns make murder very convenient for the antisocial.

The problem you have QAZ is that you don’t understanding between honest law abiding gun owners and the freekin thugs.

[davo]

And to cap that the second amendment is the very thing that makes the USA great.

I guess the only logic that follows, particularly so of Trump supporters, to… ‘make America great again’ simply means more guns for more citizens? More guns equals more deaths… but you guys already know this. It’s a shame but it’s getting to the stage where the frequency of your multiple gun related mass murders is becoming a bit “meh, they can’t be told” to the rest looking on.

[Paidion]

We know what our guns can do, and we zealously protect the rights of law-abiding citizens to own guns precisely because we want to prevent or stop tragedies like Parkland or Sandy Hook

Question. In the U.S. can a citizen legally walk around in public with a hand gun in their pocket or in a holster?

[maintenanceman]

Hi David, your post seems to portray your ambivalence to the current POTUS but the second amendment argument is much deeper and fundamental to the American understanding of ‘liberty’.

No offence, but you just don’t get it.

[maintenanceman]

Question. In the U.S. can a citizen legally walk around in public with a hand gun in their pocket or in a holster?

Yes in certain states folks can carry either concealed or open with or without a permit. It will depend on the state and their laws.

[davo]

No offence, but you just don’t get it.

Yep you got that right… and none taken.

[maintenanceman]

[maintenanceman]

So if I own a firearm you do understand that I can be a law abiding citizen and own a firearm?

[Paidion]

Yes in certain states folks can carry either concealed or open with or without a permit.

Thank you. Are you saying also that they can’t in certain other states?

I am pretty sure that you would be arrested in Canada if you carried a hand gun in public.
And gun ownership requires registration. I live out in the countryside and have three rifles: (1) A 30-30, (2) an over and under .22 and .410 shot gun, and (3) a .22 semi-automatic.

[maintenanceman]

Thank you. Are you saying also that they can’t in certain other states?

I am pretty sure that you would be arrested in Canada if you carried a hand gun in public.
And gun ownership requires registration. I live out in the countryside and have three rifles: (1) A 30-30, (2) an over and under .22 and .410 shot gun, and (3) a .22 semi-automatic

Actually, in the US there is a bit of a war about both gun ownership and guns in and of itself as a needed part of the constitution. Our American way has been to have the population be able to arm themselves, from the founding fathers, they understood the necessity, to allow people to have fire arms. It is a crucial part of our bill of rights.

[maintenanceman]

Of course. The problem is that usually we don’t know which gun owners would commit murder until there are dead bodies on the ground.

So your view is to go around to the law abiding gun owners and say ‘give me your guns’ and the problem will be somehow be fixed…

[maintenanceman]

Not quite. A buyback at above market value with strict licensing including requiring people to prove they plan to hunt or participate in marksmanship competitions.

you are a communist.

[maintenanceman]

[quote=“qaz, post:2149, topic:6062”]
Stop trolling.
Gotcha

[Bob_Wilson]

Count me as another commie native who just doesn’t get it

[maintenanceman]

Count me as another commie native who just doesn’t get it

Hmmm, well, thanks Bob.

[davo]

Count me as another commie native who just doesn’t get it

Lol… I must really be a commie-socialist leftist leaning do-gooder bleeding-heart liberal