Hi Jason. I’d like your thoughts on this post (by someone else) that I’ll reproduce here on the identity of Jesus. I thought I’d post this here, as it seems perhaps a bit more metaphysical in slant than scriptural. Thanks!
"Jesus IS no different from us, has never been. “The first born among many brethren” “As I (Christ) am so are you in this world” “Greater things than these (Jesus’s works) shall you do” “I go to My God and Your God, My Father and Your Father”
As for Jesus the MAN being God. Numbers puts it like this, God is NOT A MAN that he should lie, NOR the SON OF MAN that he should REPENT. Also, Jesus was tempted AND it is IMPOSSIBLE for God to be tempted. God knows all things, yet Jesus doesn’t.
So Jesus the man is not God, for the WORD of God is TRUTH, which was MANIFESTED in JESUS. As the WORD of God is now manifested IN US. (Christ IN US)
Jesus said, “Why are you calling me (Jesus) GOOD? There is NONE that is good save the FATHER that is in HEAVEN”
Jesus had a separate will as we do. “Not my will God but yours be done”
I think there is overwhelming evidence to state that Jesus is the SON OF GOD, manifesting God to the world, and not that JESUS IS GOD.
“God was IN Jesus reconciling the world to himself” - The scripture does not state, that God is or was Jesus.
God cannot DIE. Jesus died. God cannot SIN. Jesus took upon himself, SIN.
Jesus is a literal SYMBOL of HUMANITY in our RISEN STATE. There is ONLY ONE SPIRIT, ONE BODY.
If the TWO BECOME ONE, then we are ONE, there is no seperating us, I have the name of Christ, I am the body of Christ, I am given the Mind of Christ = Christ in ME the HOPE OF GLORY - It is no longer I that lives, but CHRIST.
I see JESUS as the first born among the DEAD. The first born among many brethren.
The entire creation is not waiting for one man Jesus to return, but the MANIFESTATION of the SONS OF GOD, who are the RISEN CHRIST (body).
That’s my take at least. "
The point he seems to be making here is that Jesus (the physical, human part of Jesus Christ) is only human, but the indwelling presence of God (the Word, Christ) was actually God and is divine. Might this account for the confusion between the trinitarian statement that Jesus was fully God and fully man and the typical non-trinitarian assertion that he was only a man? This may also solve the problem of whether or not Jesus (as God) can die. If the scripture asserts that God can’t die, then only the physical, totally human part of Jesus Christ died, but the spirit of God within him did not, as this was truly God.
Is this making any sense? If I’m on the right track, then it would seem that the trinitarian vs. non-trinitarian view becomes mainly a matter of semantics; that Jesus Christ was fully God and fully Man, as the trinitarians are fond of asserting, but only in the sense that Jesus (the human man) was fully man and the “Christ” part was fully God.
It seems to me that this is perhaps the simplest solution to the apparent contradictions in scripture over the identity of Jesus Christ. I also wonder if culturally, those I AM statements that Jesus made were either made by the Spirit of God (bearing witness of himself) indwelling the man, Jesus, as the Father’s mouthpiece and/ or made on behalf of God by Jesus as God’s perfect representation/ representative. Sort of like the eldest son of a household being able to speak for the father of the family as if he was the father, or like the authority given Joseph in Egypt (Joseph being a type of Jesus as Son), where he could speak for the king as if he was the king.
Anyway, what do you think?