This will be the official thread for the debate between myself (Jason Pratt, one of the administrators and guest authors for this forum), and “Francis TurretinFan” (the pseudonym for a popular Calvinistic and anti-Catholic internet apologist).
Debate topic: “Some people will not be saved from their sins according to the following passages and their contexts: 2 Thess. 1:9, Matt. 25:41/46, Matt. 18:8, Romans 9:22 and Jude 1:6.” TFan affirmed, I denied.
The debate was taped by Skype on Tuesday night, Oct 11, and runs just under 3-1/2 hours. As it happens, after editing out our extraneous conversations and creating intros and outros, so do the podcasts in total: 2 hours 89 and a half minutes.
Chris Date of theopologetics.com/ was the moderator, and his site is hosting the podcast episodes. At the time I composed this opening post, he hadn’t yet updated his main site with posts linking to the podcasts, but I’ll include those below when they’re available (as discussions may occur in the comments either place).
Part 1 of 3 can be found here: “God Save Us All”. It features our main arguments, and our rebuttals, TFan first in both cases. Roughly 1-1/2 hours, plus any intro material from Chris.
Part 2 of 3 can be found here: “No More One More Chance”. This features our cross-examinations of each other. Roughly 1 hr (plus any transitional material from Chris, which I expect to be minimal.)
Part 3 of 3 can be found here: “Lost Forever”. This features Chris’ Q&A of each of us, and our closing statements. Altogether they total about 48 minutes, plus Chris’ outro material.
A quick way of accessing all three debate parts from Chris’ podcast site, would be through this topic list which handily collects them all on the same screen. (You won’t be able to read comments that way, but you’ll be able to see the number of any comments that have been posted.)
Each part of the podcast can be downloaded (as an mp3) from podbean via a hyperlink under the embedded player on each page.
Each post also contains links to the raw audio of each debate, where you can hear me gargle Chloraseptic! (Edited to add: not really; by raw audio Chris means the debate material sans intros and outros.)
Chris has now posted up the debate in bite-sized increments (30 minutes max) on his YouTube channel. The playlist can be found here. (Chris also links to it below in a comment.)
I plan to do a neutral topic map later, so that listeners can find particular portions if they want to. Unsure yet where I’ll put it (i.e., here in this opening post–which would greatly lengthen it–or later as a series of posts, or appended as txt, doc and pdf documents, or just a separate locked thread), but I’ll include links here whenever I get around to doing so. (Not any time real soon.) Note: Chris’ YouTube channel playlist for the debate, linked to in the prior paragraph, also forms a basic topic map, as each division of our debate gets its own video. (Or audio rather.)
I also plan to post transcripts of my pre-written debate material eventually, but I don’t want to divert attention away from Chris’ site as being the place for the primary debate data, so I expect I won’t be doing this until mid-November at the earliest.
TFan’s weblog can be found here. A quick way to find everything he has written (or at least tagged) on his blog about universal salvation, would be to click here. This will most likely also contain any commentary pages he writes on the debate, and already includes his pregame thread and his announcement that the debate is now posted. If I notice any specific commentary posts, I’ll link to them below–other members are welcome to beat me to that, though.
Our forum’s “pregame” thread for the debate can be found here. I have currently locked it down to prevent people from being confused about where to post commentary.
Members may create new threads (at their own volition, or as recommended by ad/mods) discussing points of the debate; but if you do, please cross-link the opening post of new threads back and forth with this thread so we can keep references all together in one place.
I’ll save this opening post for adding initial links and/or other initial technical information, and comment on various things afterward.