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What Is Heaven Like?

Have you ever wondered what Heaven is like? Most Christians look forward to meeting Christ face-to-face in Heaven some day. I suspect, based on my understanding of the character of Christ and the redemptive purpose of God’s judgments in the coming ages, that life after death will not even closely resemble what most of us expect.
The popular picture of life after death, for many Christians, is some sort of idyllic existence in heavenly realms of indescribable beauty, free from any form of hardship and sorrow. Many picture Heaven as place of blessed and intimate face-to-face fellowship with Christ. The goal and expectation of every committed Christian is to one day be made like Christ and become perfectly formed into His image.

While this is all very Scriptural, I believe there may be some confusion as to the timing of this event. According to the Scriptures, before all of us achieve this sinless perfection in Heaven, there will be intervening eons, or ages, during which much work must be done. During these intervening ages, Christians and non-Christians alike will face various forms of judgment, correction, and opportunities for growth and repentance.

If you think that the moment after you die you will no longer experience sorrow, think again. If you expect to fellowship with Christ in the next life and become like Him, then wouldn’t you expect to experience some of the same feelings He is now experiencing and be doing some of the same things He is now doing? Exactly what is it that Christ is now doing and feeling? Does He not feel sorrow for the lost condition of mankind and the suffering they are experiencing on a daily basis? Is not the essence of His character that of agape, self-sacrificing, love? Do you think that Christ is just sitting up there in Heaven enjoying the idyllic life without a single care about the lost condition of humanity, without lifting a finger to help them? Do you think He stopped intervening into human history after He ascended into Heaven 2,000 years ago?

Jesus is the Good Shepherd who will not stop looking for his lost sheep until he finds and redeems the very last one. His purpose is to draw all men to Himself, and He is not going to do it alone. He uses us, His Chosen representatives to participate with him in this endeavor. Do you really think that, after we die and finally meet Him face-to-face, we will stop serving Him? If our goal is to become more and more like Him in this life and the next, don’t you think we should be engaged in the same types of activities in which He is engaged and be feeling the same sorrow for the lost condition of mankind that He feels?

When Christ comes to set up His kingdom on Earth, He won’t be coming alone. We, “His Saints," will be tagging along with Him. We will be ruling with Him and serving Him in various capacities during the kingdom ages. Whether you understand the descriptions of these intervening ages in the book of Revelation to be true in the literal or figurative sense, the lesson is the same. Much work needs to be done between now and God’s final day of redemption. Will it be all work and no play? Hardly! I am sure that the kind of joy and excitement we will experience while serving Christ in the coming ages will far surpass anything we are currently experiencing in this present age.

God’s plan for the ages, does not even end with the book of Revelation. The thousand-year millennial reign of Christ and the era of the new heavens and new earth, as described in Revelation, are not descriptions of God’s final restoration of His creation. Even during the period of the new heavens and new earth, in Revelation, not all will be permitted to enter the gates into the New Jerusalem city. Outside the gates will be those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murders, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood (see Revelation 22:14).

We have the Apostle, Paul, to thank for providing us with a description of what happens at the conclusion of the ages. You will find it in I Corinthians 15:22-28. Please take time to read this passage carefully and prayerfully, keeping in mind everything you have already learned on this website.

1 Corinthians 15:22-28: “For as in Adam ALL die, so in Christ ALL will be made alive. But each in his own turn: Christ, the first fruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. For he ‘has put everything under his feet.’ Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be ALL in ALL.”

Here Paul gives the order in which people will be made alive, first Christ, then those who belong to Christ at His coming, then everyone else after the last of God’s enemies have been put into subjection under his feet. The very last enemy to be destroyed is DEATH itself, not dead people. There will be no more death, physical or spiritual. God will be all in all.

Hi Richard,

First, welcome to the forum! I’ve enjoyed much of what you’ve written so far. However, I’m not sure I agree with your understanding of the above passage from 1Cor 15. While it is common (even among believers in UR) to interpret Paul as teaching that believers are raised separately from unbelievers, I’m not convinced this is what Paul had in mind. Here’s my view: In these verses Paul is alluding to the Jewish harvest, which had two orders: 1) the “firstfruits” of the barley harvest (in which a sheaf was brought into the temple and then shaken by the priest toward the four quarters of the world as a dedication to God, and as evidence of the consecration of the whole harvest throughout the nation) and 2) the rest of the harvest, which would follow afterwards. In accordance with this imagery, Paul gives us two specific “orders”: 1) “Christ, the firstfruits” and 2) “those who are Christ’s at his coming.” Christ, the first to have been raised from the dead never to die again, is the pledge and consecration of the rest of the “harvest” to God. Those who make up this resurrection harvest (i.e., those who are said to be “Christ’s at his coming”) are simply those of whom he is the “firstfruits.” But of whom is Christ the “firstfruits?” I think Paul provides us with the answer three times from verse 20 through 22: “those who have fallen asleep” (v. 20), “the dead” (v. 21), and all who die “in Adam” (v. 22). Thus, Christ is the “firstfruits” of all who will be found dead (“asleep”) at his personal return from heaven; it is these who I believe will be “Christ’s at his coming.”

I should also add that I like your username! I think the word “paradise” is the most beautiful description of heaven found in Scripture (Luke 23:43; 2Cor 12:3). There is so much imagery packed into that single word, and when I reflect on the fact that everyone’s going there my heart is filled with joy. :smiley:

Aaron, I have a problem with any eschatology which makes a sharp delineation between “saved” and “unsaved.” The reason is that I believe we have all been redeemed by the blood of Christ, but only “experience” salvation in varying degrees. There are a few passages in the Bible which speak about two classes of people, saved and unsaved, those who are Christ’s at His coming, and those who are not, those who are caught up to meet Him in the air and those who are left behind, those in Heaven vs. those who are in Hell. These are troublesome to me. If you have read my essay entitled, “Where Does God Draw The Line?,” you can understand why this is so. I certainly don’t have a final answer on this question, but it seems to me that if you can’t draw a sharp line between “saved” and “unsaved,” especially at any instantaneous point in time, then the two classes of individuals might represent opposite “ideals” or “conceptual” groups. Many would not have any trouble identifying themselves as belonging to one group or the other, but there is a huge amount of “grey area” in between. The way I view it, being “saved” or “unsaved” is more a matter of “perception” than external physical reality. For example, people in Hell are said to be “separated” from Christ, yet we know that Christ is omnipresent. People in “Hell” only perceive themselves to be there, because they are not aware of God’s presence. The same is true of those who consider themselves to be “saved.” They experience the presence of Christ, a bit of Heaven so to speak, in this life, but in the coming ages their awareness of and experience of the presence of Christ will grow stronger. One day, I would surmise, the spiritual and physical realities will be one and the same and God truly will be “all in all.”

Richard

you said: People in “Hell” only perceive themselves to be there, because they are not aware of God’s presence.

Aaron: Huh? Where is that in the bible? Don’t tell that to the richman who has been tormented in hell’s flames for a couple thousand years. ( Luke 16:19-31)

God bless,
Aaron

So, Aaron, you believe that our loving Heavenly father, who gave his only Son, Jesus, as a ransom for EVERYONE’S sins, tortures people for thousands of years in literal fires of Hell?

Richard

Hell was the eternal prison designed for the devil and all who willingly follow him there. God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son and whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life. You lived your whole life, Richard, and God wanted to save you, but it was not until you gave him the tool of FAITH in Christ that he was able to bring about your salvation.

Jesus’ death makes provision unto salvation for the world, but to be a partaker of this salvation…one must believe to receive it. God is no respector of persons, this free gift is for anyone that will believe to receive it.

God bless,
Aaron

Aaron, you didn’t answer my question.

God does not torture anyone, Richard. He made us with the ability to choose and he does not violate our free-will. All who go to hell go there willingly with their eyes wide open.

God bless,
Aaron

So you’re saying that the rich man in Christ’s parable went there willingly and he is not being torchered by literal fires of hell?

I’m saying the richman knew the law and prophets and ignored them. He knew the consequences of sin was death, but continued to trust himself than God. So, yes, he went there willingly and is being tortured by the flames that were created for the devil and ALL who willingly follow him there.

God bless,
Aaron

When God created Hell for the devil and his angels, was He aware that 99% of humanity would also wind up there, according to fundamentalist doctrine?

Is the misinformed beggar on the streets of calcutta also going to willingly wind up in Hell?

Is God so helpless as you think to save people from Hell?

Did you ascertain this after observing real life, or did you reinterpret life after hearing someone preach that?

Aaron, you are not very good at answering direct questions. My beliefs are firmly grounded in scripture. I would suggest you read my book and website www.heavenandhellpage.com

Better still, read Gerry Beauchemin’s book. You can download it for free at his website: www.hopebeyondhell.net

Blessings,

Richard

Richard

you said: When God created Hell for the devil and his angels, was He aware that 99% of humanity would also wind up there, according to fundamentalist doctrine?

Aaron: God knows the end from the beginning and all in between. I believe God made us with the ability to make choices and knew that most of humanity would trust themselves rather than himself. I don’t believe 99% of humanity will be in hell, Larry, but a majority of them will.

you said: Is the misinformed beggar on the streets of calcutta also going to willingly wind up in Hell?

Aaron: If the beggar genuinely crys out to God with their heart…God will find a way to give him the opportunity to believe the gospel.

you said: Is God so helpless as you think to save people from Hell?

Aaron: God has done his part, Richard. He gave an undeserving rebellious world his Son to put their faith in and the reward is an intimate relationship with him forever for those who want it. God is not holding back, Larry, He is waiting for everyone to give Him the tool of FAITH in Christ to bring about their salvation.

God bless,
Aaron

God bless you, too, and my name is Richard.

Richard

That’s an extreme amount of desire, right there.

I don’t think we realize how true it is that, just as Oswald Chambers said, the gospel creates the need it satisfies. Until it comes along we don’t realize we need it. We may not be happy, but we’re generally content and don’t seek anything deeper or more dynamic than the everyday life we lead, or at least seek higher answers in things less substantial.

Jesus Christ is the only one who can shake us to the core of our being and create a need where there didn’t seem to be one before. So the case of such a beggar would probably be few and far between.

Stellar

Romans 10:13 " For Whoever Shall Call On the Name of The Lord shall be Saved".

God bless,
Aaron

Richard

OOOPS, Sorry Richard. I have no idea why I called you Larry…forgive me.

God bless,
Aaron

Next verse:

“How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?”
Romans 10:14

Obviously God is content to let plenty of people just slip through the cracks? :unamused:

Oh, that’s right. They go to hell with their eyes “wide open.” I forgot, sorry. I guess I need to blindly reinterpret my understanding of both reality and scripture. :unamused: